#microformats 2020-02-03

2020-02-03 UTC
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petermolnar hello, everyone; I have an uncomfortable question. If I read the internet correctly, something like R/2020-W01-2T19:00:00/P1W is a valid ISO8601 expression for recurring events - not according to Google, of course. Anyone knows if there is a way to express recurring events with hCalendar? (I don't have access to any dynamic option for this; it has to be static text and because it's a weekly class, it needs the reoccurrence.)
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@JarnoVanDriel ↩️ Oh wow, so far we got: 1) microformats not being recognized 2) microdata not being recognized if json-ld is found 3) not coalescing entities with the same @id within the same syntax How about just microdata or RDFa? (twitter.com/_/status/1224374368765124608)
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[KevinMarks] @petermolnar as I recall we looked at this fur the original hcalendar and found it too complex
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[fluffy] Calendar recurrences are a pain to deal with properly. If there’s a limited number of repeats it might be easier to have one separate post for each instance of the class.
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[KevinMarks] Part of it is how recurring events interact with timezones. If you instantiate each event, you can translate into hour offset rather than named (or worse, floating) timezones for each one. Without that every viewer needs to know how timezones interact with the event location
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@demotive Needing out to @tantek on a @bigwebshow from a year ago. Forgot how fascinating the microformats story is: https://pca.st/WcEP (twitter.com/_/status/1224425761064525825)
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[tantek] petermolnar, recurring events as designed in iCalendar are horribly cumbersome and fragile due to the reality of DST changes. So there's no such thing as "static text" that can reliably express a recurring event without worrying about DST, and thus without failing reliable machine representation
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Loqi [tantek]: jamietanna[m] left you a message 2 days, 23 hours ago: the MF2 blog post https://gitlab.com/snippets/1933801 is now updated with those comments from the other day - please review it when you get a chance!
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[tantek] petermolnar, instead, list *all* the instances of the class on the static page, and mark them up accordingly
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[tantek] jamietanna++
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Loqi jamietanna has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (22 in all channels)
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[tantek] !tell jamietanna[m] I think you can drop the last two paragraphs. The sentence "With the continued growth of Microformats across the IndieWeb, we expect that Google will extend its Microformats support accordingly." is a strong closer. Perfect to end right there.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[fluffy] wow does macOS seriously have no way of enabling prefers-reduced-motion without disabling ALL UI animations throughout the entire OS?
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[fluffy] oops
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[fluffy] wrong channel sorry
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[KevinMarks] I liked the idea of Loqi telling macOS about fluffy's ux bug
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[fluffy] Yeah somehow slack ended up switching to this channel when it was part of a (to be fair, also off-topic) rantle in #indieweb :)
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jamietanna !tell Tantek thanks! If you're happy with that, what are next steps to get it published to the site?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] !tell jamietanna great - LMK when the snippet is ready and I think me or someone else with microformats site WP publishing privileges can help you out.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [tantek]: jamietanna left you a message 36 minutes ago: thanks! If you're happy with that, what are next steps to get it published to the site?
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jamietanna[m] !tell Tantek awesome, it'll probably be the morning UK time now. I'm assuming it'll be linked back to me as author?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] !jamietanna[m] ideally we'll figure out a way to get an actual author account created for you on the WP so the post would directly identify you as an author.
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Loqi [tantek]: jamietanna[m] left you a message 3 minutes ago: awesome, it'll probably be the morning UK time now. I'm assuming it'll be linked back to me as author?
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[tantek] oops forgot !tell but I'm guess you're still here and saw that 🙂
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[fluffy] Phone tag, IndieWeb edition
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[tantek] 😂
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[Michael_Beckwit we’re so retro
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