#microformats 2020-02-05

2020-02-05 UTC
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@JarnoVanDriel I've been doing some testing with @BingWMC's markup validator @cyberandy and here's my summary: 1) microformats is recognized 2) RDFa *isn't* recognized 3) chaining of entities (id) doesn't seem to work 4) merging of entities (id) doesn't seem to work cc: @aaranged (1/14) (twitter.com/_/status/1225045439025700864)
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@JarnoVanDriel ↩️ @BingWMC @cyberandy @aaranged https://jsbin.com/yojozuw/ - hreviews-aggregate - microformats found (2/14) (twitter.com/_/status/1225045615098368004)
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@cyberandy ↩️ all confirmed; the main indication seems to be: use JSON-LD or microformats but don't expect us to merge data. This as we know poses an issue when you have legacy data already on page but we can find solutions around it (twitter.com/_/status/1225054332925759490)
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[tantek] Wow ^^^
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Loqi [tantek]: jamietanna[m] left you a message 1 day, 5 hours ago: awesome, https://gitlab.com/snippets/1933801 is now updated so should be ready as soon as we can get an author profile up 👍️
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[tantek] That plus google abandoning data-vocabulary is kind of a 1-2 sucker punch for RDFa
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[KevinMarks] Though we need to encourage them to use more that just hReview maybe
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@JarnoVanDriel ↩️ @cyberandy @BingWMC @aaranged Almost, be aware that microformats and microdata are different things. (twitter.com/_/status/1225060033009942528)
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Zegnat Jarno on point there with immediately addressing the microformats vs microdata mixup
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@hellemans ↩️ But it picks it up later...as to some experiments I've done. In that case microformats ftw. #semrushchat (twitter.com/_/status/1225092756063838211)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @cyberandy @JarnoVanDriel @BingWMC @aaranged Updating microformats support beyond hReview would also be a good idea. (twitter.com/_/status/1225099471299731462)
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@JarnoVanDriel ↩️ @kevinmarks @cyberandy @BingWMC @aaranged To be honest, that's the only one I tested. Didn't feel like testing even more microformats types. (twitter.com/_/status/1225099961727160320)
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[tantek] yes they support more. see http://microformats.org/wiki/bing
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Loqi Microsoft Bing Search Engine
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[tantek] I mean it's not like we have a wiki page with citations or anything 😉
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[KevinMarks] Hmm. Should we lobby Bing and duck duck go to support a wider range?
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aaronpk There's certainly plenty of blog and microblog posts to index
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[tantek] KevinMarks, yes, we should lobby them to support mf2, which they should be able to do with one code update (to incorporate a parser) and then surface vocabulary as they seem them
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[tantek] That's where another IndieMap crawl would help
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[tantek] I'm mixed about providing Mastodon as an example though, because I think there is a resistance by various Mastodon communities to being crawled, even though it's "technically" possible
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[KevinMarks] Yes, there would need to be clear respect for the noindex and nofollow in mastodon, and maybe some extra extra work for the CW pattern there
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[KevinMarks] Otoh, there is solid rel-me support
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