#microformats 2020-02-23

2020-02-23 UTC
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Zegnat This week had a first: being contacted over email by someone informing me that microformats.org has a login form without HTTPS protection.
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@yasushitakehara Interesting idea, "microformats" (a bit old?) https://www.weblio.jp/content/microformats HTML5 seems have implemented some parts, like "tel", "email" in input tag. (twitter.com/_/status/1231558500670562304)
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@yasushitakehara ↩️ Interesting idea, "microformats" (a bit old?) https://weblio.jp/content/microformats HTML5 seems have implemented some parts, like "tel", "email" in input tag. (twitter.com/_/status/1231558778744557568)
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aaronpk ugh yeah we really need to prioritize the server admin work this year
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[tantek] yeah 😕
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@BekoPharm ↩️ Mostly h-entry and mayhap h-cards on articles. This allows for fancy links already. See http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry for an examples that has all the basics required. http://php.microformats.io/ is a great debugging help to get started. It's really straight forward tho. Happy to assist! (twitter.com/_/status/1231650562158006276)
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@thenaughtysquid ↩️ @BekoPharm @gamingonlinux Example: http://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingonlinux.com%2F Seems to pick up the tags nicely. (twitter.com/_/status/1231652628213436417)
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@BekoPharm ↩️ Awesome :D If you add this to articles as well, and mayhap refine that h-card with photo and url (to author profile, see http://microformats.org/wiki/h-card) you'd save me and various other people using this to "hydrate" links a damn lot (and you get more control what is used at all) (twitter.com/_/status/1231654087772590080)
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@thenaughtysquid ↩️ I've added the h-card tag for the article lists too, looks like it works nicely with no adjustments and uses the correct profile URL too - nice. Also added h stuff to full articles: http://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingonlinux.com%2Farticles%2Fexplore-a-dark-mansion-in-the-survival-horror-westmark-manor-releasing-this-year.16005 (twitter.com/_/status/1231656849520328704)
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@thenaughtysquid ↩️ @BekoPharm @gamingonlinux Good shout. http://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingonlinux.com%2Farticles%2Fwhat-have-you-been-playing-recently-and-what-do-you-think-about-it.16057 Looks good now? (twitter.com/_/status/1231664094941458432)
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@BekoPharm ↩️ Ah, and for photo, that will now be missing, change the avatar link to something like this: <img class="avatar h-card p-author u-photo"> Microformats parses this all and fills in the blanks. Well usually. There is probably an elegant way but this should do. (twitter.com/_/status/1231664426262114305)
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sknebel liamdawe: sorry, we had a spamwave recently and apparently our bot is a bit overzealous
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liamdawe no problem heh :)
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sknebel aaronpk: can we disarm Loqi a bit again?
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sknebel liamdawe: ah, I see the problem: the p-author needs to be on the same element as the h-card
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liamdawe oh
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sknebel because "author" is a property of the h-entry, so it needs to be nested under the h-entry, not the h-card. and "p-author h-card" tells it "there's an author property that has an h-card object as it's value"
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sknebel so replace what's currently "p-author" with "p-name"
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aaronpk ah joining and immediately dropping a link looked like spam
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aaronpk been a few days since the spam wave, i can disable that again
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liamdawe ah there we go, looks better now
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sknebel liamdawe++
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Loqi liamdawe has 1 karma over the last year
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liamdawe thanks for the tip sknebel
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sknebel always happy to help!
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liamdawe i'm totally new to this, only read up on it today
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liamdawe is it right that it has the author url as a second url? looking at the parsing here http://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingonlinux.com%2Farticles%2Fwhat-have-you-been-playing-recently-and-what-do-you-think-about-it.16057
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Loqi [Liam Dawe] What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
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liamdawe that doesn't seem entirely correct
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liamdawe actually i think i know the answer on that myself
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liamdawe needs p-name in the same place
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sknebel yeah, you have a seocnd link with u-url
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sknebel <div class="meta">Posted by <strong><a class="u-url" rel="author" href="https://www.gamingonlinux.com/profiles/1">Liam Dawe</a></strong>, <time class="dt-published" datetime="2020-02-23T13:05:19Z">23 February 2020 at 1:05 pm UTC</time> | Views: 3,116 </div>
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beko hej liamdawe :D
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sknebel that doesn't need any microformats, since you have the card and the rel=author already elsewhere
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sknebel (well, the dt-published you'd want to keep of course)
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aaronpk edited /h-entry (+3) "/* what is the bare minimum list of required properties on an h-entry */ drop implied name, drop "implied" from the URL, since it's unlikely that a url will succesfully be implied in an h-entry" (view diff)
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aaronpk edited /h-entry () "(-609) /* p-name of a note */ drop recommendation of adding p-name to notes, defer to indieweb wiki" (view diff)
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liamdawe right okay, how does it look now? all good?
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liamdawe http://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingonlinux.com%2Farticles%2Fwhat-have-you-been-playing-recently-and-what-do-you-think-about-it.16057
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Loqi [Liam Dawe] What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
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beko Weird. Looks like the bridge stopped working again. Last message I got on Discord is from 01/29/2020 but I see plenty of users from here :(
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aaronpk you can also use https://monocle.p3k.io/preview to preview what this feed may look like in a reader that parses the microformats
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sknebel liamdawe: you added a second name to the article now, you probably didn't want to do that
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sknebel <div class="meta">Posted by <strong><a class="p-name" rel="author" href="https://www.gamingonlinux.com/profiles/1">Liam Dawe</a></strong>, <time class="dt-published" datetime="2020-02-23T13:05:19Z">23 February 2020 at 1:05 pm UTC</time> | Views: 3,156 </div>
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sknebel get rid of the p-name there
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sknebel you already have the author information in the h-card
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sknebel ah, you are using the same template in both spots?
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sknebel (since the h-card just lost the url too)
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liamdawe ah crap i'm getting confused, hold on
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sknebel you have two links to your author page
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sknebel one right at the top, and one towards the bottom
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liamdawe ahhhhh
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liamdawe yeah they're output the same, that's what's causing it
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liamdawe good catch
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liamdawe so i need to remove one heh
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beko sorry for the trouble =) and thanks for adding microformats :D
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sknebel you could also wrap both in h-card and mark one as the author and leave the other - it'd then be just a random child, that's not ideal but unlikely to break anything
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liamdawe boom
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liamdawe there we go
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liamdawe i think it's all good now
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liamdawe :D
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sknebel yes, looks good :D
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sknebel liamdawe++
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liamdawe hooray!
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beko 👍
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liamdawe much appreciated
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liamdawe right, sorry to ask and dash but it's 8pm here and i gotta eat, happy sunday - thanks again!
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beko works. avatar shows up now too
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beko liamdawe++
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Loqi liamdawe has 2 karma over the last year
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beko sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (53 in all channels)
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@nertzy Today at IndieWebCamp 2020 Austin I’m figuring out what my personal site https://nertzy.com has on it and running it through https://indiewebify.me to get some basics like h-card set up. After that, I’ll be looking into social reader apps. http://microformats.org/wiki/h-card (twitter.com/_/status/1231694806713294849)
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