#microformats 2020-04-16

2020-04-16 UTC
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[tantek] aaronpk, Zegnat, and hey schmarty and gRegorLove too, re: advice should be updated on indiewebify.me, I made a pull request! please review 🙂 https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/pull/88
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Loqi [tantek] #88 empty p-name for notes
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GWG Have we figured out how to mark up an online event?
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aaronpk I don't think we've determined that there is even any special markup necessary
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GWG Just thinking about it in regard to meetable.
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GWG I would want my site to know an event has no physical component so I could display different options in my UI.
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aaronpk Lack of a location?
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GWG Works. But some events are still pending one.
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[KevinMarks] If it's online only is showing time in multiple time zones a good idea?
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GWG [KevinMarks]: That depends on the audience.
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GWG I'm not suggesting a new property, just a combination of existing properties.
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GWG Just not sure what
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sknebel I don't think different timezones should be marked up - that's IMHO primarily a display thing
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sknebel for "location" etc one would need to check how different things handle it if that's just a url with join instructions or a url to a video meeting thing.
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sknebel and if it's useful to indicate anything extra there or not
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sknebel i.e. in calendar invites I either see the link in the text and no location or a location: <url> and that just works IMHO? but our consumers might do that differently
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GWG Well, then if location can be an h-card, how would you indicate it in the h-card?
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GWG If Zoom is a venue...
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GWG p-role ?
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GWG It is sort of the question of how, if the h-card is an organization, how would you indicate type?
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aaronpk Location doesn't *have* to be an h-card, it could just be the URL
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GWG aaronpk: Yes, but still contemplating a way to distinguish between a URL representing a physical place and one representing a onlineplace
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GWG Other than me guessing based on the domain
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GWG In the same vein, if I were marking up a venue...let's say a pizza place...how would I note it's a restaurant and not a person by context?
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aaronpk As sknebel said, people do a pretty good job of figuring that out themselves when they need to, I'm not sure what value the software would provide by knowing that difference
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GWG Eventually, I will get to venues
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GWG Right now, using such code would be rather aspirational though
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GWG GWG checked into his living room.
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[Michael_Beckwi] just need to ham it up
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[Michael_Beckwi] GWG checked into the living room of the mountain king
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GWG [Michael_Beckwi]: You mean like an office where the conference rooms have fun names?
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[Michael_Beckwi] sure
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[KevinMarks] The BBC ones are named after TV Shows, which can mean they're named after people
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[KevinMarks] Also, Google is really bad at this - google maps with take the conference room name and feed that to maps which will pick somewhere else entirely
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[KevinMarks] eg https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/1199097575418322944
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Loqi [@kevinmarks] @therealfitz eg if you make a meeting for ada lovelace, six pancras square which is a conference room in google's london office, it puts it in St James where her Blue Plaque is https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKQM4ZGWkAAAHSG.jpg
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sknebel right, that could be a problem with urls as locations potentially
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gRegorLove Re: https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/pull/88, php-mf2, mf2py, and ruby parsers appear up to date with the spec for implying p-name. Can't find an online Go parser to test it
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Loqi [tantek] #88 empty p-name for notes
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gRegorLove Though https://ruby.microformats.io/ is out of date; running 4.0.7 but 4.2.0 is the latest
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gRegorLove Is someone familiar with ruby able to update that?
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[tantek] I think ben_thatmustbeme was maybe updating it?
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gRegorLove https://node.microformats.io/ is giving an error too, if any node people can take a look
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gRegorLove Looks like mostly [shaners]
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[tantek] gRegorlove thanks for verifying that those release parsers are up to date. I've been using the list here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#Parsers
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[tantek] so either we could reduce the list of "parsers in active development", or we can wait for more parsers to get updated.
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[tantek] [shaners] setup all of microformats.io from what I recall
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gRegorLove Yeah
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gRegorLove Jason Garber and ben_thatmustbeme are on the microformats parser development teams and committed to Ruby, not sure if they also have permissions to the ruby.microformats.io repo to deploy
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aaronpk i think they're set up to auto deploy to heroku? can't remember if it's actually automatic or not
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gRegorLove Sorry, I meant permission to write to that repo, which yeah should auto deploy
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gRegorLove Confirmed, Parser Development team can write to ruby.microformats.io repo
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[tantek] Maybe we should introduce a third intermediate category of parser, stable but unmaintained, feel free to jump in
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gRegorLove I was about to ask what the criteria is for active development
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gRegorLove Only ones on that list I'm not sure of are Haskell and Apache Any23
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gRegorLove Haskell was last released June 2018, the demo site doesn't work -- but Greg's domain it's on still works
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gRegorLove Time since release doesn't necessarily mean *too* much, though. php-mf2 was August 2018 :D
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[tantek] the JS ones don't appear to be actively developed
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gRegorLove Guess I should check commits too, not just releases.
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gregorlove edited /microformats2 (+75) "/* Javascript */ current microformat-node repo, forked from glennjones" (view diff)
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