2020-09-12 UTC
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# 03:43 GWG Trying to list the proposed definition of the properties we are proposing. # 04:03 [tantek] GWG, a challenge for you, are you posting all your GitHub issues and comments on them from your own site? # 04:03 GWG Not yet. I do occasionally, but not there yet. # 04:05 [tantek] What if I challenged you to do it at least with microformats issues? And then use the experience to inform your understanding of the pain points in the process of posting issues & comments from your own site? # 04:06 GWG Regrettably, unless I did it last week, I can't try that tonight. # 04:06 GWG I have a POSSE issue I need to fix where the webmention isn't sending promptly. I think it is my server not triggering the queued webmentions # 04:13 Loqi [dshanske] #20 u-comment should move to core/stable # 04:13 GWG How did this one not have an issue? # 04:18 GWG Another question. Duration...should that be p- or dt- ? # 04:27 GWG h-event considers duration to be a stable property # 04:27 GWG It notes dt-duration, but doesn't define a format. [chrisaldrich] joined the channel
# 04:28 GWG There's a long discussion in various places about what that format should be. But worth having an issue for. # 04:36 Loqi [dshanske] #7 Define format for dt-duration # 04:42 GWG I'm being very microformat productive tonight # 04:48 GWG If p-location in h-entry can be h-card, h-adr, or h-geo, do we need latitude/longitude as h-entry properties? Sajesajama_ joined the channel
# 05:29 GWG Should h-cite have an issue repo? # 05:31 GWG In a citation, should p-publication optionally be an h-card? # 05:40 [tantek] GWG are there any consuming applications that do anything with h-cite? # 05:45 GWG Well, technically speaking, no. Other items are consumed and cited as h-cite. # 05:46 GWG So, the issues would be how to consume/convert # 05:46 GWG So, the question being how does that work? # 05:46 GWG Could any property in h-entry apply to h-cite on the basis you are citing an h-entry and so on? [James_Gallaghe] joined the channel
# 06:15 [James_Gallaghe] I’m going to try to make it to the microformats session but I’m more interested in listening / helping informally. I’m still new to microformats and trying to beef up my knowledge. # 06:23 GWG [James_Gallaghe]: That's encouraged. craftyphotons_, jalcine[m], jmac, Phae, bigbluehat, hirusi[m] and KartikPrabhu joined the channel
# 09:14 Zegnat Good morning microformats! I see you have been busy GWG! I hope to make it to the mf session today :) sebbu, KartikPrabhu and [James_Gallaghe] joined the channel
# 13:08 Zegnat I will admit I have had very little online time this week, so not a whole good grasp of the agenda. # 13:12 GWG Zegnat: Closing off old issues mostly # 13:18 GWG Zegnat: Do you have any issues you want to discuss? # 13:20 GWG I was trying to figure out how to mark up episodic content, when I was brainstorming podcasts last night # 13:23 Zegnat What is the difference between episodic and your general time ordered feed? # 13:27 GWG I have a podcast I do with chrisaldrich, and it has an episode number # 13:31 [James_Gallaghe] Good question. The only distinction I can think of is the episode number. # 13:32 [James_Gallaghe] Or maybe episodic podcasts are supposed to come in series? Or is that a serial podcast? # 13:38 Zegnat I guess I am just wondering what the episodes numbers add. I have been wondering that a lot lately, because I notice some podcasts put it in titles, and others do not. # 13:42 GWG [James_Gallaghe]: You also have the standard media format of SxxExx # 13:44 [James_Gallaghe] I am wondering too. My podcast has episode numbers just because I have seen other podcasts with episode numbers. # 13:54 GWG Not a bad question. You do have the date, I suppose peterrother joined the channel
# 13:55 GWG But I like the idea I've done x number of episodes # 14:04 aaronpk apple recently added specific support for episode and season numbers in the RSS feed [Mark_Tourtello], [tantek], KartikPrabhu and [chrisaldrich] joined the channel
# 16:51 [tantek] Getting that well understood will help with moving issues forward in a clear, transparent, and historically understandable way [James_Gallaghe] joined the channel
# 16:58 [James_Gallaghe] I am dropping off the call. A bit far out of my wheelhouse for now. Interesting look into the standards process 🙂 # 17:33 aaronpk but, the schema needs updating to handle the entire mf2 parsed result including the "items" array # 18:01 GWG gives ben_thatmustbeme a supportive pat on the back [tw2113] joined the channel
# 19:31 Zegnat aaronpk: yeah, I am unsure what I did with the full parser output schema. Because it is just a thin wrap around the one I link on the wiki ... but those online JSON validators were what I was thinking about as already usable today :) [James_Gallaghe], gRegorLove, [chrisaldrich] and gRegorLove_ joined the channel
# 20:23 GWG Also, we made a lot of progress on how to make progress # 20:25 GWG The big issue was how to clarify h-entry change control so we might actually complete it # 20:26 GWG gRegorLove: Do you want to join us in chatting? # 21:06 Zegnat Screenshot showing me trying to do XSS by closing the textarea, and messing up the type property of the microformat instead. So it does not validate anymore [tantek] joined the channel
# 21:20 Loqi Zegnat has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (71 in all channels) [tw2113], jamietanna, KartikPrabhu and cambridgeport90 joined the channel
[James_Gallaghe] I’m going to try to make it to the microformats session but I’m more interested in listening / helping informally. I’m still new to microformats and trying to beef up my knowledge.
GWG Microformats Session in 20: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/09/microformats2-issues-resolution-session-cay9SF07oNTY
[chrisaldrich] The session is now live.
aaronpk hey cool https://www.jsonschemavalidator.net/ works with that validator schema
ben_thatmust is having flashbacks of SWWG
gRegorLove_ Bummed I missed the session but glad it happened!
Zegnat I have put a quick web wrapping around my schema, going to fix the schema for full documents tomorrow and add some test cases before launching: https://i.imgur.com/Cqve8ij.png