#microformats 2021-08-09

2021-08-09 UTC
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jacky back back
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jacky random question: is there a special need to sort (or to avoid sorting) the children in a mf2 item?
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jacky well it's not random - I'm working on a patch for the rust microformats parser and I'm curious if this is a breaker
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jacky hmm okay it's saying "document order"
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[KevinMarks]1 The children are a list so have an implied order, which is document order, The place where there is ambiguity is for properties, as different languages have different default orders for their dictionary types - PHP and JS are creation order, Python is hash order, Go is random order (to stop you assuming order) so iterating the properties needs care. I don't know what Rust does.
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[jacky] Rust allows for any of the above with specification so I'm leaning on document order
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[KevinMarks]1 another option is sorting keys alphabetically when writing json to make diffing clearer - I have seen this specified in some contexts (as well as normalising keys and values to utf8 rather then escaped unicode )
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[tantek]1 yes the "document order" aspects of the parsing spec are essential. nothing "optional" there
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[jacky] Is there a particular reason for it? Tbh the inclusion of this (re: keeping it document order) would make it actually easier to implement signed forms of Microformats JSON (though that's not necessary - just something I've noticed now as a possibility)
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sknebel [jacky]: particular reason for what? child order: see e.g. any feed for why you might want document order
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[jacky] that's true
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[jacky] and I guess to keep it 'simple', enforcing across the board works
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[jacky] and it's simpler than having to figure out what to sort them against (id vs url vs etc) when none are guaranteed
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[tantek]1 sknebel++ exactly
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