#microformats 2022-03-07

2022-03-07 UTC
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Seirdy thanks; I think I'll stick to an empty alt.
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[tantek] [schmarty]++ great find, appreciated that article, and added it to indieweb.org/alt (which has a lot more on the subject)
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[tantek] Seirdy, for IndieWeb markup use-cases and how-to, you may find the #indieweb-dev channel more useful, I'll say more there.
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jacky interesting note from https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/images.html#alt
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jacky > "The most general rule to consider when writing alternative text is the following: the intent is that replacing every image with the text of its alt attribute does not change the meaning of the page."
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Seirdy jacky: yeah i just disable images in my browser or use something like w3m when im low on data or when my bandwidth is limited; alt text replaces the images so i can still understand what i'm reading.
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jacky that's a good practice!
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Seirdy hang on gonna reconnect
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@kandr3s ↩️ That was an awfully formatted “auto-tweet”. Sorry about that. Microformats are hard to get right I guess… (twitter.com/_/status/1500762523758432257)
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@chrisheuer ↩️ @Montero Hey Chris. We think a lot alike. Also looking to create open data design standards leveraging lessons learned from #xml and #microformats especially. For people to own their reputation they must be able to freely take it with them. #Web31 (twitter.com/_/status/1500929328002912257)
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jacky TIL about https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/microdata.html (I kept seeing the term but didn't know what it was)
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jacky it's like a more verbose form of MF
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jacky heh https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/microdata.html#vcard
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jacky hm there's some properties mentioned there that aren't mentioned at https://microformats.org/profile/hcard
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jacky (like impp, which I do show on my about page for XMPP)
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jacky yeah https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/microdata.html#converting-html-to-other-formats looks very similar to mf2-json
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[tantek] and it's supported by exactly zero browsers. it's a vestigial part of the "HTML" standard (which is literally supposed to document what browser actually support)
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[tantek] but I haven't had the time/energy to open an issue/pull request on the HTML standard to remove all the microdata bits
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[tantek] (which is what's supposed to happen when zero browsers support something, especially when that support goes from partial in one browser to zero browsers over time)
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[tantek] that JSON format was one of the contributions of microdata to the design of mf2. where possible I re-used bits of microdata-json for mf2-json so consuming applications could more easily make sense of "either" syntax after it was parsed
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