#microformats 2022-12-11
2022-12-11 UTC
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@defnotbeka why aren't people doing fancier things with mastodon? like, you have a lot more in the way of text space in messages, why arent we seeing a flourishing of client-to-client oriented microformats??????? (twitter.com/_/status/1601755928143200257)
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quarky[m] yo - I'm not super involved in the microformats/indieweb sphere, so sorry if this is the wrong place, but I wrote a post abt the state of gender+pronouns tagging in h-cards https://heyquark.com/general/2022/12/10/hcard-pronouns/
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gRegor This is the right place, and thanks for sharing the post! Pronouns haven't advanced too much in the spec in part due to the language complexities and no consuming examples, so it's mostly experimenting currently. Nice thing about mf2 is that it will parse anything with the correct prefixes, so can easily experiment with whichever ones make the most sense
# gRegor I think you want p-pronoun in your example, and could probably do it without the <abbr>. Example: http://php.microformats.io/?id=20221211035738963
# gRegor Here's an example I added p-gender to: http://php.microformats.io/?id=20221211040042497
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# quarky[m] I might go with p-gender, seems alright!
# quarky[m] I'd like to keep the abbrs for human users though, so they don't confuse the syntax (she/hers vs. she/they; does "they" replace "hers"?) but I spose I should check how it actually renders before I dismiss it
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# [snarfed]2 unfortunate mf2 implied property failure: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/342
# [snarfed]2 she's on Wordpress, trying to use Bridgy Fed, and her theme evidently doesn't render any post permalinks, so when she puts the https://fed.brid.gy/ link into her post, it's the onl link there, so mf2 parsers make it the u-url, which obviously then confuses her
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# [snarfed]2 ^ looks like this was discussed and improved in https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/36, which was good, but not quite enough to prevent/fix this case 🤷
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# [snarfed]2 agreed! I've added example URL, HTML, and mf2 to both issues
# [snarfed]2 looks like she was hand crafting them, so they're very minimal
# btrem [jacky] I'm having trouble getting a local instance of microformats-parser-website-node going. I'm not familiar with yarn. With 11ty, I use npm with package.lock. For this repo, should I be using yarn 1.x? Yarn 2?
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[tantek] thanks snarfed. I think the workaround (and maybe longer term solution) for this (and perhaps other Bridgy uses of Webmention as an API) would be to add a special classname to such "bridgy-only" webmention links, similar to the use of Bridgy classnames for Bridgy Publish silo-specific summaries.
