@defnotbekawhy aren't people doing fancier things with mastodon? like, you have a lot more in the way of text space in messages, why arent we seeing a flourishing of client-to-client oriented microformats??????? (twitter.com/_/status/1601755928143200257)
quarky[m]yo - I'm not super involved in the microformats/indieweb sphere, so sorry if this is the wrong place, but I wrote a post abt the state of gender+pronouns tagging in h-cards https://heyquark.com/general/2022/12/10/hcard-pronouns/
gRegorThis is the right place, and thanks for sharing the post! Pronouns haven't advanced too much in the spec in part due to the language complexities and no consuming examples, so it's mostly experimenting currently. Nice thing about mf2 is that it will parse anything with the correct prefixes, so can easily experiment with whichever ones make the most sense
gRegorSo you can definitely use p-gender to parse it as a plain text value. u-gender would parse a URL if you were linking to a page, similar to the old pronoun.is site
quarky[m]I'd like to keep the abbrs for human users though, so they don't confuse the syntax (she/hers vs. she/they; does "they" replace "hers"?) but I spose I should check how it actually renders before I dismiss it
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[snarfed]2she's on Wordpress, trying to use Bridgy Fed, and her theme evidently doesn't render any post permalinks, so when she puts the https://fed.brid.gy/ link into her post, it's the onl link there, so mf2 parsers make it the u-url, which obviously then confuses her
[tantek]snarfed, though an h-entry without a u-url permalink is odd/uncommon, it's probably something we should handle (use-case, many h-entry posts on a single page without specific permalinks). could you capture a minimized version of the markup causing this to the issue?
[tantek]without either of those (link to the h-entry with the problem, and/or markup from the h-entry with the problem), it's hard to verify whether implied u-url is at fault or not
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btrem[jacky] I'm having trouble getting a local instance of microformats-parser-website-node going. I'm not familiar with yarn. With 11ty, I use npm with package.lock. For this repo, should I be using yarn 1.x? Yarn 2?
[tantek]thanks snarfed. I think the workaround (and maybe longer term solution) for this (and perhaps other Bridgy uses of Webmention as an API) would be to add a special classname to such "bridgy-only" webmention links, similar to the use of Bridgy classnames for Bridgy Publish silo-specific summaries.
[tantek]another mitigation we can explore is if there are any "e-*" classnames, then don't do any implying of any properties, as it would be quite odd for a microformat to only specify an e-* property and still want implying of other properties (can't think of any use-cases for that).