#microformats 2023-02-13

2023-02-13 UTC
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[tantek]
That being said, with the initial microformats we led with how do we markup the existing semantics being expressed in content being published, which was an important improvement over the RDF architecture astronomy, however it didn't go far enough.
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[tantek]
It took until a combination of mf2, better processes, and co-evolution with indieweb to also add the requirement of complete publishing + consuming code use-cases (beyond "better search" handwaving), which were focused on user benefits, not web dev benefits
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[tantek]
Maybe that's worth a small blog post
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[KevinMarks]
Well, we were working for a search engine at the time of mf1 - so we could implement consuming support directly.
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[tantek]
There was also a sense of proposing simpler solutions than other approaches to supposedly existing problems. Eg XFN instead of FOAF. rel=license instead of CC RDF markup
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[tantek]
Then there was the proposal of hCard & hCalendar at FOO Camp more as an experimental exploration than anything else, figuring that it could provide a web-native way to solve the problems that vCard & iCalendar were solving
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[tantek]
Both of those were before I worked at a search engine as it were
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[tantek]
rel=tag and hReview were the first microformats to be proposed (in 2005) specifically within the context of implementing support for them in a search engine
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@serpstat
↩️ ▪ valid markup of pages with meta-data, headings, microformats, and other factors; ▪ optimum site structure and internal linking for better indexing by search engines and ease of navigation for users;
(twitter.com/_/status/1625103856857128960)
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[tantek]
it's not from any thing obvious there. not seeing the connection and not really into asking about it on Twitter
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[tantek]
I mean in general I haven't replied on Twitter to anything in a while though I have a few tweets open (more positive things) that I may reply to
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aaronpk
the dream, but not the implementation
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aaronpk
extracting structured data from web pages, now with AI™
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[tantek]
I don't even know if "extracting" is the dream any more especailly "at scale"
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[tantek]
in contrast to peer-to-peer IndieWeb interactions
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[tantek]
also with AI generating more pages/content for the web, it's going to turn into GIGO
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[jacky]
what's that?
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[jacky]
oh wait lol
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[jacky]
Garbage In, Garbage Out lol
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[jacky]
:brain: decided to kick in there
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