#microformats 2024-10-17

2024-10-17 UTC
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[mattl] h-feed question, if I have a page with *every* post on my blog...
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[mattl] <h1 class="p-name"><a href="/feed" class="u-url">My h-feed</a></h1>
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[mattl] <ol>
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[mattl] <li class="h-entry">
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[mattl] <section class="h-feed">
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[tantek] looks right
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[mattl] nice, so so easy.
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trwnh h-entry question: h-entry is defined as "for episodic or datestamped content". am i correct in saying that non-episodic, non-datestamped content should NOT be marked up with .h-entry? for example, a "page" that is not a "post" is likewise not an h-entry. (but it might be some other as-yet-unspecified thing?)
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[snarfed] hmm, that definition might be overly strict
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[snarfed] I definitely have h-entry on my evergreen pages, eg https://snarfed.org/about , and I think that's common, but not sure
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[aciccarello] I generally don't have h-entries on my pages but maybe I should.
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gRegor Agreed, though your about page does have a published and updated date [snarfed] :)
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[snarfed] hah good point
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gRegor I thought mine had h-entry too, but looks like I used h-card, which makes sense
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[tantek] trwnh, episodic or datestamped content is the typical use-case for h-entry yes, however any page on the web has at a minimum a "last modified" date that is returned via HTTP, and thus h-entry makes sense as a default fallback for "what top level microformat should I use on this page"
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[tantek] you've got HTTP Last-Modified (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Last-Modified), then HTML <title>, then HTML <body>. That looks good enough for a minimal "entry" IMO
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[snarfed] ^ makes me wonder if we should reword the definition
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[tantek] probably
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[tantek] [snarfed] want to file a brief issue suggestion expanding the definition accordingly? https://github.com/microformats/h-entry/issues
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[snarfed] probably less effort to just make the edit directly, I have access
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[snarfed] I'd just remove "episodic or datestamped" from https://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry
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Loqi [preview] Tantek Çelik
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snarfed edited /h-entry (-24) "remove "episodic or datestamped" qualifier. it's kinda right in spirit, but not in letter. see https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2024-10-17#t1729138929962700" (view diff)
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[snarfed] done