#microformats 2026-05-19

2026-05-19 UTC
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[capjamesg] Is there a microformat for providing a link to a transcript file that relates to an audio file?
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[tantek] Not AFAIK capjamesg. Are you writing a consuming code use case in your Reader?
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[capjamesg] No. It was more that RSS has an affordance for transcript files and Apple Podcasts displays the transcript if one is available. I wondered if there was a microformats equivalent too.
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[capjamesg] Although it would be nice if I could write a h-feed as have it convert into a valid podcast feed.
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[tantek] converting to podcast RSS with an affordance for transcript files is a great consuming code use-case
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[tantek] backing up one step though, have you figured out how to post audio posts in an h-feed such that e.g. Granary can convert them to podcast RSS?
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[tantek] (before adding transcripts 🙂 )
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[capjamesg] Not yet! I don’t know if Granary has support for podcasts.
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[capjamesg] Although I did just add u-audio to h-entries on the podcast website.
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[capjamesg] On a related note, I just found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_with_hAudio_microformats. Interesting!
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[tantek] yeah there's been some interesting things on Wikipedia with microformats
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jkingweb Interesting that it seems to be mostly or entirely classic microformats. It goes to show that a backcompat parser implementation still has significant value.
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[capjamesg] Yeah
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[tantek] gRegor attempted to update the main microformats wikipedia article for mf2 but had to deal with resistance from a particular editor, so I'd expect other related update efforts are similarly blocked
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gRegor Ah yeah, they seemed to really want to treat mf2 as a different thing than mf1
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[tantek] which is not the role a NPOV Wikipedia editor should play
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gRegor That's why https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microformat is still mf1 focused in examples, with mf2 only a subsection
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[snarfed] granary generally supports audio, yes, including RSS and metadata like duration and size
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[tantek] [snarfed] do you know what input formats it accepts to turn into podcast RSS?
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[snarfed] let's see. mf2, AS1, AS2 at least
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gRegor looks good at a quick glance (haven't tried subscribing) https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=rss&url=http%3A%2F%2Flatenighttoast.com%2F
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gRegor Also don't recommend listening. Ancient and silly XD
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gRegor Don't listen and subscribe, to borrow from [artlung] :)
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[artlung] _"Don't Like, Don't Subscribe" ..._ but yes. 🙂
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gRegor remix :)
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[artlung] If you liked listening, sure, listen again. If not, that's cool too.
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[tantek] capjamesg, have you tested your podcast h-feed with Granary?
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[capjamesg] gRegor it looks like that feed has the `itunes:` prefixes which is cool!
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[capjamesg] [snarfed] Can I specify a cover image in my h-feed?
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[capjamesg] Apple Podcasts expects an `itunes:image` that acts as your “cover art”.
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[capjamesg] No worries if you don’t know off the top of your head; I’ll need to play around with this more.
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[snarfed] [capjamesg] I don't think it has that yet
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[snarfed] oh actually it does
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[capjamesg] Oh wow! I think that’s all I’ll need to make a valid feed.
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[capjamesg] How does Granary identify the duration of the audio file per gRegor’s example above?
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[capjamesg] Do I need to add special markup for this or does Granary handle it?
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gRegor p-length: `<data class="p-length" value="PT1H7M58S">1h 7m 58s</data>`
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[capjamesg] Ah, perfect. I already have that data so it’s good I can use it myself.
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[capjamesg] gRegor++ [snarfed]++ thank you so much!
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Loqi gRegor has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (130 in all channels)
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[capjamesg] I’ll need to blog about this at some point 😄
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gRegor excited to see more podcasts use it!
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[snarfed] nice! definitely keep us posted
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