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# 16:30 tantek good morning #social! our telcon starts in < 30 min # 16:31 AnnB greetings, tantek ... and all others # 16:31 tantek elf-pavlik: thanks - no need for tells about the mailing list - assumption is that people that care about it are on it :) # 16:45 tantek lolwhut aaronpk? 2015-04-14 telcon is not yet in the past :P # 16:46 tantek on a more productive note, should we update the group wiki photo to that from the most recent f2f? I think we had more people # 16:46 aaronpk it's about to be in the past, and i didn't see a header for "next" :P # 16:46 aaronpk the new f2f photo is way better too! lots brighter! # 16:47 tantek what, it's under "Telecons" - what's not obvious about that? ;) # 16:48 tantek you know, because databases are inefficient :P # 16:57 Arnaud I'm with aaronpk on the lack of obviousness of the "next" call on our home page # 16:57 Arnaud I was tempted to just edit the page the other day jasnell joined the channel
# 17:00 Arnaud I think the problem comes from the structure which differentiates face to face from telecons # 17:00 tantek hmm - might have to cancel - my telecom provider is being flakey (Google Hangouts) RRSAgent joined the channel
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# 17:01 Zakim ok, trackbot; I see T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM scheduled to start now # 17:01 Arnaud if people like that, I'm happy to change our page to be more like that # 17:01 Zakim ok, trackbot_; I see T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM scheduled to start now AnnB joined the channel
# 17:03 Zakim T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM has not yet started, aaronpk # 17:03 Zakim On IRC I see AnnB, Zakim, RRSAgent, jasnell, tantek, jperrault, trackbot_, cwebber2, wilkie, shepazu, oshepherd, nickstenn, Arnaud, KevinMarks, elf-pavlik, bret, kylewm, rhiaro, # 17:03 Zakim ... JakeHart, bigbluehat, dwhly, Loqi, melvster, ben_thatmustbeme, aaronpk, mattl, ElijahLynn, Tsyesika, sandro, wseltzer, trackbot # 17:03 Zakim T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM has not yet started, tantek # 17:03 Zakim On IRC I see AnnB, Zakim, RRSAgent, jasnell, tantek, jperrault, trackbot_, cwebber2, wilkie, shepazu, oshepherd, nickstenn, Arnaud, KevinMarks, elf-pavlik, bret, kylewm, rhiaro, # 17:03 Zakim ... JakeHart, bigbluehat, dwhly, Loqi, melvster, ben_thatmustbeme, aaronpk, mattl, ElijahLynn, Tsyesika, sandro, wseltzer, trackbot # 17:03 Zakim ok, Arnaud; that matches T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM # 17:03 Zakim I don't understand your question, aaronpk. # 17:03 Zakim On the phone I see Ann, cwebber2, +1.978.537.aaaa, aaronpk, Arnaud, ??P8, ben_thatmustbeme (muted), ??P10, [IPcaller] # 17:03 jperrault I am on the call, was invited by jasnell # 17:03 Zakim I don't understand 'does anyone really know what time it is', cwebber2 # 17:05 Zakim On the phone I see Ann, cwebber2, jperrault, aaronpk, Arnaud, tantek, ben_thatmustbeme (muted), wilkie, rhiaro (muted), Sandro, Tsyesika # 17:07 wilkie there's no confirmation for that command too! # 17:07 Zakim I don't understand 'who is on the call', tantek # 17:07 Zakim On the phone I see Ann, cwebber2, jperrault, aaronpk, Arnaud, tantek, ben_thatmustbeme (muted), wilkie, rhiaro (muted), Sandro, Tsyesika (muted), jasnell, eprodrom # 17:08 wilkie tantek: does anybody have objections, fixes, etc to the minutes? # 17:08 wilkie tantek: let's go ahead and approval the minutes # 17:09 wilkie tantek: let's put the march minutes for next week. rhiaro, can you go ahead and put that for the next week for people to review them. # 17:09 wilkie tantek: next meeting is next tuesday, Arnaud will chair. # 17:10 wilkie tantek: ok. evan will chair next week and I will be backup # 17:10 wilkie tantek: that takes us to the next f2f which is Paris # 17:10 wilkie tantek: AnnB was noting that we are requesting people sign up and looks like there are 13 participants, 1 pending visas and 2 questionable on funding. that looks like a healthy size of a meeting # 17:11 wilkie AnnB: john can't come, a grad student is coming and is interested in vocabularities. # 17:11 wilkie tantek: if you could add him to the regrets page that would be helpful # 17:11 wilkie AnnB: ok. he just joined, not sure to which group, but I will add him to the regrets page. # 17:12 wilkie tantek: he is listed as a remote participant though. # 17:12 wilkie AnnB: if he says he is dialing in, then he is dialing in. # 17:12 wilkie tantek: I'll be in paris, but I have a conflict and won't be able to even remotely participate # 17:13 wilkie tantek: that's it for the f2f... didn't see anything else come up # 17:13 ben_thatmustbeme tantek, in order to not take up too much of jperrault's time can we skip tracking of issues until after he gives his demo # 17:14 trackbot issue-18 -- We need to know if there are any other products in this space and if there are any dependencies between ldp and opensocial planned in the future? -- raised # 17:14 trackbot_ issue-18 -- We need to know if there are any other products in this space and if there are any dependencies between ldp and opensocial planned in the future? -- raised # 17:15 wilkie tantek: I'm going to propose summary closure of this issue unless somebody has a good reason to keep it # 17:15 AnnB (helpful to read email for last minute statuses :-) # 17:15 trackbot issue-19 -- WG communication channel explosion -- raised # 17:16 wilkie tantek: (laughs) is this part of the communication problem that we can't communicate on this issue # 17:17 jasnell happy with letting the chairs figure this issue out # 17:17 wilkie evan: my feeling on this issue is that IRC and email and wiki are our canonical communication channels and if there are dropped balls we handled them as needed # 17:17 wilkie evan: for example, concern that not everybody was reading the mailing list which is fixed by bringing up things in the wiki. # 17:18 tantek Proposal: IRC and email and wiki are our canonical communication channels and if there are dropped balls we handled them as needed. For example, concern that not everybody was reading the mailing list which is fixed by bringing up things in the wiki. # 17:18 wilkie I write what people say and don't have time to think about what they ultimately mean haha # 17:19 tantek RESOLVED: IRC and email and wiki are our canonical communication channels and if there are dropped balls we handled them as needed. For example, concern that not everybody was reading the mailing list which is fixed by bringing up things in the wiki. AdamB joined the channel
# 17:19 trackbot issue-20 -- Represent Collections using JSON Text Sequences (RFC 7464) -- raised # 17:19 trackbot_ issue-20 -- Represent Collections using JSON Text Sequences (RFC 7464) -- raised # 17:20 wseltzer trackbot_, bye # 17:20 wilkie tantek: ok. issue 20. I feel like we already talked about this but didn't open it or something. raised by erik # 17:20 wilkie jasnell: this came up in the github tracker as well # 17:20 wilkie tantek: we don't have to resolve it. just whether or not to keep it # 17:21 wilkie jasnell: there are no current implementations that use json text sequences. unless we have actual implementations we shouldn't open it. # 17:21 wilkie tantek: so we should reject this issue because there are no implementations? # 17:21 wilkie jasnell: yes. if an implementation comes along later, we can revisit # 17:21 tantek PROPOSAL: Reject issue due to no actual implementation using JSON text sequences. # 17:22 AnnB abstain ... deferring to geeks # 17:22 tantek RESOLVED: Reject issue 20 due to no actual implementation using JSON text sequences. # 17:22 trackbot_ issue-25 -- What syntax is (syntaxes are) to be used in the social api (eg microformats vs json-ld; form-encoding vs json-ld) -- raised # 17:22 trackbot issue-25 -- What syntax is (syntaxes are) to be used in the social api (eg microformats vs json-ld; form-encoding vs json-ld) -- raised # 17:23 wilkie tantek: great question. don't really know until we see proposals. seems like something the social api will have to answer. # 17:23 wilkie tantek: though elf isn't here, seems like one that is reasonable to open as it is a question we need to answer for the social api # 17:23 tantek PROPOSAL: Open issue as something that Social API proposals should answer. # 17:24 tantek RESOLVED: Open issue 25 as something that Social API proposals should answer. # 17:25 wilkie jasnell: I have three items that I marked as pending review. # 17:25 wilkie jasnell: I assumed they would be covered under tracking actions/issues # 17:25 trackbot issue-29 -- Removing Activity Types not used by User Stories -- pending review # 17:25 trackbot_ issue-29 -- Removing Activity Types not used by User Stories -- pending review # 17:25 trackbot_ issue-30 -- Deprecate "actor" in favor of "attributedTo" -- pending review # 17:25 trackbot issue-30 -- Deprecate "actor" in favor of "attributedTo" -- pending review # 17:25 trackbot issue-35 -- Simplify the Actor Types -- pending review # 17:26 wilkie jasnell: for issue 30 my solution is to simply withdraw it # 17:26 wilkie jasnell: this was to deprecate actor for attributeTo and folks didn't seem to like this. # 17:27 wilkie tantek: did you want to give the group (wrt 29, 35) some time for review # 17:28 tantek ACTION ALL, please review issue 29, issue 35, and respective pull requests by 2015-04-21. # 17:28 wilkie jasnell: yep. pull requests are on github. the links are right. # 17:28 wilkie tantek: you can add the links to the pull requests to the issues # 17:29 wilkie tantek: Does anybody want to claim success on actions/issues? eprodrom joined the channel
# 17:29 wilkie tantek: that takes us to activity streams 2.0 in the agenda # 17:29 Zakim sees jasnell, aaronpk on the speaker queue # 17:29 wilkie tantek: first thing is the test harness demonstration # 17:29 tantek Test Harness Demonstration (James Snell and JP Perrault, IBM) # 17:29 wilkie jasnell: jperrault has not participating in the WG before but joined the call today # 17:30 Arnaud aaronpk, ben_thatmustbeme: I changed the home page to make it easier to find the next meeting, let me know what you think # 17:30 aaronpk i don't know if that needs to be on the queue, happy to just close it # 17:30 wilkie jasnell: week before last jperrault started working on a basic testing harness that does basic validation of an AS document # 17:31 wilkie jperrault: if you go to the link, what we have here is a node-based service similar to the w3 validator except it validates against the AS2.0 spec dret joined the channel
# 17:32 wilkie jperrault: intent was 3-fold: to validate the json that comes back from a uri you provide, to validate json format, and validate terms from the spec # 17:32 wilkie jperrault: it gives you links that give back valid/invalid json and you can click on them and it will returns errors # 17:33 wilkie tantek: javascript is required for the links? # 17:33 wilkie jperrault: yes, you should enable javascript. you can type the iri in and I can paste some links in irc. # 17:33 eprodrom Thanks, sorry about that # 17:34 wilkie jperrault: the results at the moment also depend on javascript. I will correct that in the next sprint. # 17:34 Zakim sees jasnell, aaronpk, eprodrom on the speaker queue # 17:34 wilkie jperrault: not much to say except the intent would be to modularize the test to test each of the terms and test specific use cases in the spec # 17:35 Zakim sees jasnell, aaronpk, eprodrom on the speaker queue # 17:35 Zakim sees aaronpk, eprodrom on the speaker queue # 17:35 wilkie tantek: thank you for the demo, can we go to the queue for q/a # 17:35 Zakim aaronpk, you wanted to resolve action-55 thanks to rhiaro # 17:35 wilkie eprodrom: this is interesting. couple questions. one of the things we want to do is test implementations and this seems testing available data, which I guess we could use to test output from libraries or tools we have. # 17:36 wilkie eprodrom: how does this fit if we wanted to test the javascript implementations jasnell has done # 17:36 wilkie jasnell: this is a start that uses that implementation underneath. the intent is to give us something to start with expecting it would need to evolve with api discussions and use cases # 17:36 wilkie jasnell: this at least gets us a path to a way of testing at least a AS document # 17:37 wilkie eprodrom: one way to see this is if I were to take an implementation and put it so it could be checked with this framework and see the output is valid # 17:37 AnnB yes, evan is cutting out # 17:38 wilkie jasnell: if you have an endpoint up that publishes AS at a public url, you could give that url and at least see the format is correct # 17:38 wilkie jasnell: to check behaviors we would have to change it quite a bit. we could do it. this only checks the format, right now. # 17:38 wilkie jasnell: the intent is to throw this up on github and make the tests modular so we can add tests as we move along. # 17:38 tantek q+ to note that if the validator could have direct <a href> links to the test examples, then a consuming application could use those as test cases # 17:39 wilkie AdamB: what if I don't have a public url to give you. can I run this myself? # 17:39 aaronpk could you paste in a chunk of json in a text area? # 17:39 wilkie jperrault: right now it is a node server. you could pull it down and serve it locally. # 17:39 Arnaud another option would be to allow for a file upload # 17:40 wilkie jasnell: the github url doesn't exist yet. we don't have the space under the w3 area. we could throw it on our personal space for now. # 17:40 wilkie tantek: don't wait for process. just ship it. # 17:40 aaronpk is there an issue publishing it under a personal account? # 17:40 wilkie jperrault: we do have an IBM space. we have to go through process. # 17:40 wilkie jasnell: not sure. our internal process should be good and we can get it out this week. # 17:40 AnnB s/harry has to do something?/does it have to be harry that does that?/ # 17:41 wilkie jasnell: very simple vanilla node app. installing it locally should be straightforward # 17:41 wilkie tantek: comment by aaronpk if you could add a textarea for pasting json # 17:41 wilkie tantek: that could help private json validation without a url. # 17:42 Zakim tantek, you wanted to note that if the validator could have direct <a href> links to the test examples, then a consuming application could use those as test cases # 17:42 eprodrom Thanks jperrault ! # 17:42 wilkie tantek: how do we use this to test consuming applications. if all the links you have could just be a-hrefs you could just use those for consuming applications as well # 17:42 wilkie jperrault: I was having too much fun with jQuery # 17:43 wilkie tantek: any more questions about jperrault's validator? # 17:43 wilkie tantek: great work. looking forward to seeing it on github. let's go to the next item. # 17:43 jperrault diconnecting - thank you all. # 17:43 wilkie tantek: open pull requests. jasnell... all these are from you? these need the group's approval? # 17:44 wilkie tantek: these were in the agenda for a while for people to review? # 17:44 wilkie tantek: I think we talked about this last week. unless objections, we should just say you move forward on these. # 17:45 wilkie tantek: eprodrom, you want more time to review? # 17:46 eprodrom Sorry, I just wanted to make sure we were doing the ones I though # 17:46 wilkie tantek: alright, we can declare this resolved (laughs) # 17:46 eprodrom +1 for all three proposals # 17:46 eprodrom +1 for all three pulls I mean # 17:46 wilkie tantek: next item: open issues from the editor. that's you again jasnell # 17:46 trackbot issue-26 -- Representing profiles in Activity Streams 2.0 -- open # 17:46 trackbot_ issue-26 -- Representing profiles in Activity Streams 2.0 -- open # 17:47 trackbot_ issue-27 -- How do we represent changes to a profile in an activity -- open # 17:47 trackbot issue-27 -- How do we represent changes to a profile in an activity -- open # 17:47 wilkie jasnell: we need a resolution. do we want to add a 'profile' object to the core vocabulary or not # 17:47 wilkie jasnell: we already have 'person' in the vocab. do we need a 'profile' # 17:48 wilkie eprodrom: I feel like the Person is enough to justify a Profile, or if there are other kinds of profile, we could use other objects. such as Corporation etc having profiles for. # 17:48 wilkie eprodrom: the biggest issue that a Person having a Profile that people may have other aspects or personalities # 17:48 rhiaro a person can have multiple profiles, but maybe persons and profiles don't need to be modelled separately in the vocab (unsure) # 17:48 wilkie eprodrom: for instance, my interest in baseball or poker may have different personalities facing different social areas # 17:48 wilkie eprodrom: I feel like it is a complicated and fine-tuned type of concept that can be mapped on multiple accounts # 17:49 wilkie eprodrom: my feeling is that requiring that all users have multiple profiles is unnecessarily complex for the general case # 17:49 wilkie tantek: do you have a specific proposal to help resolve the issue # 17:49 eprodrom Person class is profile class # 17:49 wilkie eprodrom: my proposal would be to use Person as profile object # 17:50 tantek PROPOSAL: Use Person as profile object to address issues 26 27 # 17:50 eprodrom rhiaro: let's discuss now! # 17:50 eprodrom OK, that's good too # 17:51 cwebber2 -0 not really sure either, the thing I'm concerned about # 17:51 cwebber2 is the "multiple personas" type thing that rhiaro brought up on-list # 17:51 eprodrom cwebber2: could you bring it up now? # 17:51 wilkie jasnell: the multiple personas thing needs to be considered but gets complex # 17:52 wilkie jasnell: lots of different ways to resolve this issue and it is not clear to me that there needs to be one way to resolve this issue # 17:52 tantek Updated PROPOSAL: Use Person as profile object to address issues 26 27. Ok to re-open with new information when available, still open to multiple personas e.g. via extension. # 17:52 tantek RESOLVED: Use Person as profile object to address issues 26 27. Ok to re-open with new information when available, still open to multiple personas e.g. via extension. # 17:52 wilkie this was what I had interpreted it originally # 17:53 trackbot issue-28 -- Remodel "Connect" and "FriendRequest" or Remove them? -- open # 17:53 trackbot_ issue-28 -- Remodel "Connect" and "FriendRequest" or Remove them? -- open # 17:53 Arnaud thinks we could have use a bit more time, like 30mn... O:-) # 17:54 ben_thatmustbeme Arnaud: now that we are caught up more though, we seem to be getting a lot done this week. # 17:54 cwebber2 let's not press tantek into extending this call though :) # 17:54 rhiaro facebook still does that, twitter does with following too # 17:54 Zakim sees jasnell, eprodrom on the speaker queue # 17:54 wilkie tantek: I have seen connections/friendship/etc as permalinks on things like facebook and seen them on timelines # 17:54 AnnB tantek is tough; he can handle it # 17:55 AnnB plus, he seems in a good mood today # 17:55 wilkie jasnell: the way it is currently modeled is that friend-request is the verb, which doesn't make much sense. as opposed to creating a connection between me and somebody else. # 17:55 wilkie jasnell: there is a subtle difference and worth exploring. my recommendation is to change them from activity types to object types. instead of friend-request, they'd be a friendship object. # 17:55 Zakim sees jasnell, eprodrom on the speaker queue # 17:55 tantek PROPOSAL: Remodel "Connect" and "FriendRequest" as object types # 17:55 Zakim sees jasnell, eprodrom on the speaker queue # 17:56 AnnB what needs to happen to extend, arnaud? # 17:56 wilkie eprodrom: the main thing I like about this proposal is that that relationship object can have a whole CRUD lifecycle. it can be created/updated/deleted and that's a nice part of that connection. # 17:56 AnnB seems like we're making good progress # 17:56 wilkie eprodrom: it can even have properties that are represented. work-relationship, wife, father, etc. # 17:56 tantek AnnB I think we're ok with pushing any remaining items to next week - there are only a few. # 17:57 tantek eprodrom +1 agreeing with CRUD aspects of relationships as object types # 17:57 cwebber2 and I know I've been complain'y about us dragging on communicating about communicating in meetings, I think this one has been hitting important points :) # 17:57 wilkie eprodrom: the only problem I would have is that in general a lot of the semantics of AS is in the activity types / verbs, and would we be losing some part of the social software by doing this. # 17:57 wilkie eprodrom: I think the up-sides outweigh the down-sides. # 17:57 wilkie tantek: I'll take that as a +1. the proposal still stands. no objections? # 17:58 tantek RESOLVED: Remodel "Connect" and "FriendRequest" as object types per issue 28 # 17:58 trackbot issue-32 -- Deprecate "generator" and "provider" -- open # 17:58 wilkie I think follow verb/activity is still appropriate for marking the creation of the Connection # 17:59 tantek PROPOSAL Deprecate "generator" and "provider" in AS2 # 17:59 wilkie jasnell: I've only seen [generator/provider] used for metadata. I want to simplify and move these down. deprecate them. want to see what people think. # 17:59 wilkie eprodrom: I think the big thing about generator/provider.. I'm less concerned about provider.. the generator one plays the same role as an application generator in a facebook stream does. helps identify the application that generated the activity. # 18:00 wilkie eprodrom: super helpful for the app. if you are farmville, then this is important to you. # 18:00 wilkie eprodrom: would be ok with dropping provider, not generator. wonder why jasnell think's it is not important. # 18:00 cwebber2 could se way this is something that could be an extension? # 18:00 wilkie jasnell: I just haven't seen it used in implementations. I've fine if your experience is different. provider is largely redundant. # 18:01 tantek updated PROPOSAL keep Generator, deprecate Provider from AS2 # 18:01 ben_thatmustbeme i think its a pretty useful item, certainly something we see examples of (facebook does with "via" links) # 18:01 rhiaro yeah, I'm going to add crediting applications to my posts, too # 18:01 wilkie aaronpk: I agree with eprodrom on this. the generator is useful to credit the application that was used. I use this to credit applications on my own streams. think it is useful to keep it. bengo joined the channel
# 18:02 eprodrom Finger slippage # 18:02 tantek RESOLVED: keep Generator, deprecate Provider from AS2 per issue 32 # 18:02 AnnB grins at the side notes # 18:03 wilkie tantek: we have one remaining issue we will move to next week. we have an open issue from elf, but he isn't here. so I say this is a reasonable progress for the hour. we should go for an hour next week as well # 18:03 eprodrom Great! Thanks wilkie and tantek # 18:03 wilkie tantek: great. with that, the call will be closed. # 18:03 AnnB thanks a lot tantek .. good chairing # 18:04 Zakim As of this point the attendees have been Ann, cwebber2, +1.978.537.aaaa, aaronpk, Arnaud, ben_thatmustbeme, wilkie, tantek, Sandro, rhiaro, jperrault, Tsyesika, jasnell, eprodrom, # 18:04 Zakim As of this point the attendees have been Ann, cwebber2, +1.978.537.aaaa, aaronpk, Arnaud, ben_thatmustbeme, wilkie, tantek, Sandro, rhiaro, jperrault, Tsyesika, jasnell, eprodrom, RRSAgent joined the channel
# 18:08 Arnaud anyone knows why our wiki page is full of html markup? # 18:08 Arnaud it seems that someone has added some structure using divs and spans but I have no idea what this is meant to be so I can't maintain it # 18:08 tantek sometimes it is useful for achieving effects that Mediawiki markup does not itself do # 18:09 tantek Arnaud - usually you can ignore it and if it breaks someone will fix it # 18:11 tantek it will likely survive any edits you make to elsewhere # 18:11 Arnaud I understand I can just break it and wait for someone to fix it but that's not my normal style of functioning # 18:11 tantek Arnaud, it's true - that's a difference of wiki culture # 18:11 tantek also - explicitly asking when you're not sure works too # 18:12 tantek usually the "not wanting to break things" is achieved by making small well scoped edits # 18:12 Arnaud that's what stopped me from editing the page before # 18:13 tantek Arnaud++ yes this is better. thanks for the edit. bengo joined the channel
# 18:24 Zakim Attendees were Ann, cwebber2, +1.978.537.aaaa, aaronpk, Arnaud, ben_thatmustbeme, wilkie, tantek, Sandro, rhiaro, jperrault, Tsyesika, jasnell, eprodrom, AdamB bengo joined the channel
# 18:32 tantek is that a resolution high score for our telecons? ;) # 18:34 Arnaud tantek, what tool you use exploits this vcard markup? # 18:34 wilkie 9 if we count approving the minutes last week # 18:35 tantek Arnaud: there are a bunch - I'm also simplifying the markup # 18:35 tantek the event markup for the telecon was more involved than it needed to be # 18:36 Arnaud but which tool *you* use? can you name one I could try? # 18:37 tantek which provides the parsed JSON from the microformats, which then you can use in private applications etc. # 18:37 tantek and that's based on an open source library, so you can even deploy that yourself if you want # 18:38 tantek calendar feeding is more picky due to iCal compat and such # 18:40 Arnaud so, we're still missing the minutes for the F2F # 18:41 Arnaud I don't mean to be pushy but it shouldn't take Harry a month to get this done travis-ci joined the channel
# 18:41 travis-ci jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams#18 (master - 936ae67 : James M Snell): The build was broken. tilgovi joined the channel
# 18:48 Arnaud which we reminds me we need to signal it to w3t # 18:49 Arnaud "APPROVED: Meet 2015-10-29…30 (ThF) at TPAC2015" travis-ci joined the channel
# 18:49 travis-ci jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams#19 (master - f3498cf : James M Snell): The build is still failing. travis-ci joined the channel
# 18:50 travis-ci jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams#20 (master - 24dd783 : James M Snell): The build is still failing. # 18:59 tantek given how productive the telcon was today when we focused pretty much completely on Editor driven issues, I'm thinking we should consider doing all Editor agenda items before non # 18:59 tantek I think that will help prioritize our time use accordingly # 19:03 tantek and verified that pin13 can see the WG h-card, the next telcon h-event, and the next f2f h-event # 19:05 Arnaud right but it requires the editor to have done all the prep work # 19:05 Arnaud I've pushed James to do so and it definitely helps # 19:06 tantek Arnaud, let me rephrase, we can prioritiz���;e items the Editor raises where they have done the prep work :) # 19:07 tantek that way there is incentive for the prep work, since such items will then get looked at BEFORE anyone else's agenda items bengo and travis-ci joined the channel
# 19:17 travis-ci jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams#21 (master - abc3951 : James M Snell): The build is still failing. travis-ci joined the channel
# 19:20 travis-ci jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams#22 (master - e703ad9 : James M Snell): The build is still failing. trackbot and bengo joined the channel
# 20:24 Zakim excuses himself; his presence no longer seems to be needed danbri joined the channel
Loqi Bblfish made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2015-05-04]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=83595&oldid=83537
AnnB greetings, tantek ... and all others
tantek aaronpk: it's here (next) https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg#Telecons
ben_thatmustbeme oh no tantek, lets not start that here too, haha
Arnaud I suggest people look at the LDP page: https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page
RRSAgent logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/04/14-social-irc
trackbot_ Sorry, tantek, I don't understand 'trackbot, open issue-25'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
aaronpk example microformats parser that supports both: http://pin13.net/mf2/
wilkie minutes are up: https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-04-14-minutes