#social 2015-07-05

2015-07-05 UTC
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elf-pavlik melvster, i didn't understand how you define who can edit ACL files? https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl#Modifying_Access_Control_information
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melvster elf-pavlik: it's read write control for a user (agent) or for everyone (agentClass)
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elf-pavlik melvster, do you have example somewhere showing ACL definition for editing .acl file itself ?
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melvster https://gist.github.com/melvincarvalho/9dc09faa9c3668c72625
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melvster elf-pavlik: ^^
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melvster each rule is for world, user or group like unix
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melvster its essentially the web version of chmod
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elf-pavlik thx
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melvster i should really write an app for gists
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elf-pavlik :)
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elf-pavlik where do you store the rel="acl" relation ?
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melvster <uri>,acl
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melvster generally
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elf-pavlik if you store in file sysetm files foo and foo,acl - where do you store triple <foo> acl:acl <foo,acl> ?
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melvster in the link header
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melvster rel="acl" you said it already :)
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elf-pavlik you respond with it in link header, but where do you persist it?
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melvster that's up to the server
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elf-pavlik i know, how do you implment it? :)
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melvster ,acl
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melvster see GOLD
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melvster elf-pavlik: there's some crazy people that want to put it in .well-known ... but most people think that's a bad idea ... hopefully that wont happen
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elf-pavlik i don't want to explore gold source code atm ... i remember bblfish saying that he stores both web page (ttl) and ACL (ttl) in file system, but tripled relating both don't belong to web page itself but just gets added to HTTP header when requested?
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melvster but sometimes crazy bad ideas get into RECs :(
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melvster yes its in the http header
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melvster if you want implementation details look at the source, you can implement it the way you want
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elf-pavlik so you don't know details of any existing implementation yourself?
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melvster elf-pavlik: sorry i dont have time to offer you dedicated 1 on 1 support on this, rtfm
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elf-pavlik roger! thx :)
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elf-pavlik !tell bblfish i remember that your implementation stores both: document with data and ACL for it on the file system, where do you store (persist) triple with rel="acl" which later you include in HTTP Header?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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melvster elf-pavlik: are you going to be in prague for the ietf meeting in 1-2 weeks? i think bblfish is going
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elf-pavlik melvster, very unlikely :(
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Loqi *sniff*
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