#social 2016-09-16

2016-09-16 UTC
KevinMarks, jasnell, KevinMarks2, tantek, shepazu_, Arnaud, Arnaud1, jet, Loqi and aaronpk joined the channel
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sandro
Seem okay? Add your name if you want. rhiaro aaronpk tantek ...
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sandro
Excellent. It might be worth a few of us running through demos with each other the day before, to get a sense of the timing, and have a more shared understanding of the differences.
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aaronpk
definitely
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rhiaro
aaargh all my stuff is broken
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tantek
added and linked a bit more
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tantek
Sandro - shortened the heading name for shorter more readable link: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2016/SessionIdeas#Redecentralization_and_Social_Web
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tantek
really dislikes URL-escaped line noise in URLs
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csarven
rhiaro It is custom to expect stuff to break during demos, so you are already on target
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sandro
Wiki links suck, but I think we'll get a much, much class of people if "demo" is in the title.
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sandro
I'll try it without the dashes.
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sandro
Hm, I see you left the subtitle.
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tantek
sandro - sounds good, feel free to keep editing/iterating heading accordingly
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tantek
yes, tried to preserve longer version in description
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tantek
so like "Redecentralization and Social Web Demos" ?
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tantek
certainly sounds better than the adjacent "let's debate verifiable claims yet again" proposal. ;)
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sandro
I dunno, just Demos doesn't seem right either. Can't think about it right now, I guess it's fine.
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tantek
alright, either way, feel free to change first, ask for review second ;)
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sandro
Mostly I'm just hoping somehow we can bridge some gap with Tim before then.
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csarven
Decentralised Social Web Demos
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tantek
csarven, does that mean we'd have to do them across different rooms? ;)
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tantek
sandro, yeah I'm hoping for that too
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tantek
I'm also hoping to avoid the ratholes of but what about all the European privacy legal blah blah blah blah neverending and mostly useless debates
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tantek
(which kinda happened a bit in Sapporo :( )
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sandro
csarven, that's not bad, but I was trying to keep a little separation between Tim's keynote "Redecentralization of the Web" and SocWebWG.
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csarven
DEcentralised and Federated soCial Web DemOs Now (DEFCON) ?
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sandro
Yes, that's perfect.
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sandro
Maybe also spell out NSA somehow
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sandro
Federated Associated Computing Environment with Balanced Object-Oriented Knowledge
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rhiaro
crickets as everyone tries to process the full extent of the horror of that
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tantek
I'm still waiting for someone to do the satire of "Facebook on the Blockchain"
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tantek
s/Blockchain/your-preferred-backend-panacea
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rhiaro
I recall a project called FaceBlock, but that was about making yourself invisible to Google Glass or something
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aaronpk
"Steem is a blockchain-based social media platform where anyone can earn rewards."
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rhiaro
ohh I remember that
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sandro
*gag* at "anyone can earn rewards"
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tantek
"earn rewards" are those better than "badges"?
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sandro
I hate them both, but badges are sometimes okay, not being crassly commercial
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csarven
Isn't the visibile the number of followers acts like a badge?
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sandro
honest metrics are fine. I'm just personally offended when someone says, "If you get 100 followers you get a gold star and we'll tell everyone you've been a good little boy."
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sandro
(hopefulyl that paraphrase makes it clear why I find it offensive)
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tantek
and putting a number up means incentivizing gaming it etc.
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sandro
remembers when Orkut sorted people by number of friends they had, and how strong an incentive that was.
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sandro
recalls it as like $100 bills floating down from the sky
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sandro
amazed that Google blew it so badly
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tantek
is not amazed, given history of Google blowing it across nearly all project/technology areas (aside from search/mail/docs which is a pretty decent Enterprise™ set TBH)
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csarven
While we are breaking our heads trying to materialise decent/fedsocialweb stuff, the "real world" has different concerns: http://iknowwhereyourcatlives.com/
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tantek
wonders if https://indiewebcat.com/ is on there somewhere
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aaronpk
checks
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aaronpk
oh that photo was posted by the apartment building i lived in
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sandro
waves to Arnaud, wondering if he has Internet yet
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Arnaud
not quite
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Loqi
Arnaud: tantek left you a message on 2016-07-26 at 11:05pm UTC: are you available to chair the SWWG telcon 2016-08-23?
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Arnaud
only through a hacked 3G tethering connection
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Arnaud
loqi, thanks but I'm afraid it's a bit too late to ask
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Arnaud
next week
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Arnaud
3 weeks to get internet installed, I was told by locals that this is not normal but it's a bad time of the year for that
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Arnaud
lots of turnover over summer and people asking for internet at this time of the year leads to big backlogs
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Arnaud
it is still hard to stomach
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sandro
might have an old 9600 baud modem you can borrow
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tantek
welcome back Arnaud!
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tantek
TPAC next week?
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Arnaud
yes, I'll be at TPAC
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Arnaud
that's actually conveniently quite close to me now :)
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Loqi
Social Web WG Face to Face Meeting in Lisbon (F2F7)
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