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# 16:08 sandro Seem okay? Add your name if you want. rhiaro aaronpk tantek ...
# 16:56 sandro Excellent. It might be worth a few of us running through demos with each other the day before, to get a sense of the timing, and have a more shared understanding of the differences.
# 17:08 tantek really dislikes URL-escaped line noise in URLs
# 17:09 csarven rhiaro It is custom to expect stuff to break during demos, so you are already on target
# 17:10 sandro Wiki links suck, but I think we'll get a much, much class of people if "demo" is in the title.
# 17:13 tantek sandro - sounds good, feel free to keep editing/iterating heading accordingly
# 17:14 tantek yes, tried to preserve longer version in description
# 17:14 tantek so like "Redecentralization and Social Web Demos" ?
# 17:15 tantek certainly sounds better than the adjacent "let's debate verifiable claims yet again" proposal. ;)
# 17:15 sandro I dunno, just Demos doesn't seem right either. Can't think about it right now, I guess it's fine.
# 17:16 tantek alright, either way, feel free to change first, ask for review second ;)
# 17:16 sandro Mostly I'm just hoping somehow we can bridge some gap with Tim before then.
# 17:16 tantek csarven, does that mean we'd have to do them across different rooms? ;)
# 17:17 tantek I'm also hoping to avoid the ratholes of but what about all the European privacy legal blah blah blah blah neverending and mostly useless debates
# 17:18 sandro csarven, that's not bad, but I was trying to keep a little separation between Tim's keynote "Redecentralization of the Web" and SocWebWG.
# 17:18 csarven DEcentralised and Federated soCial Web DemOs Now (DEFCON) ?
# 17:20 sandro Federated Associated Computing Environment with Balanced Object-Oriented Knowledge
# 17:23 rhiaro crickets as everyone tries to process the full extent of the horror of that
# 17:24 tantek I'm still waiting for someone to do the satire of "Facebook on the Blockchain"
# 17:25 rhiaro I recall a project called FaceBlock, but that was about making yourself invisible to Google Glass or something
# 17:26 aaronpk "Steem is a blockchain-based social media platform where anyone can earn rewards."
# 17:31 tantek "earn rewards" are those better than "badges"?
# 17:33 sandro I hate them both, but badges are sometimes okay, not being crassly commercial
# 17:36 csarven Isn't the visibile the number of followers acts like a badge?
# 17:47 sandro honest metrics are fine. I'm just personally offended when someone says, "If you get 100 followers you get a gold star and we'll tell everyone you've been a good little boy."
# 17:47 sandro (hopefulyl that paraphrase makes it clear why I find it offensive)
# 17:49 tantek and putting a number up means incentivizing gaming it etc.
# 17:51 sandro remembers when Orkut sorted people by number of friends they had, and how strong an incentive that was.
# 17:52 sandro recalls it as like $100 bills floating down from the sky
# 17:58 tantek is not amazed, given history of Google blowing it across nearly all project/technology areas (aside from search/mail/docs which is a pretty decent Enterprise™ set TBH)
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# 18:08 aaronpk oh that photo was posted by the apartment building i lived in
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# 18:16 sandro waves to Arnaud, wondering if he has Internet yet
# 18:16 Loqi Arnaud: tantek left you a message on 2016-07-26 at 11:05pm UTC: are you available to chair the SWWG telcon 2016-08-23?
# 18:17 Arnaud only through a hacked 3G tethering connection
# 18:17 Arnaud loqi, thanks but I'm afraid it's a bit too late to ask
# 18:19 Arnaud 3 weeks to get internet installed, I was told by locals that this is not normal but it's a bad time of the year for that
# 18:19 Arnaud lots of turnover over summer and people asking for internet at this time of the year leads to big backlogs
# 18:22 sandro might have an old 9600 baud modem you can borrow
# 18:28 Arnaud that's actually conveniently quite close to me now :)
# 18:30 Loqi Social Web WG Face to Face Meeting in Lisbon (F2F7)
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