#social 2016-10-06

2016-10-06 UTC
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tantek just confirmed btw that the CSS WG does write tests for SHOULDs in their specs, but then document the test accordingly in itself, that it is testing a SHOULD
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tantek this serves an important purpose, which is to gather implementer experience on SHOULDs
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tantek if it turns out that implementations all (or nearly all) pass a test of a SHOULD, that makes a good case for making it a MUST in an iteration of the spec
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tantek so whoever it was that said that "SHOULDS must not be tested" is empirically wrong
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tantek not only are SHOULDs tested, but the data from such tests is useful and helps improve specs
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tantek (this is following up from a discussion in the afternoon of day 2 at our recent f2f at TPAC)
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tantek of course the better option is to eliminate as many SHOULDs as you can from your specs
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tantek in general, make them MUSTs
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tantek if the reason for a SHOULD is "some implementations may not want / need to" then create an implementation profile / conformance class accordingly that either includes those requirements as MUST or not
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tantek leaving anything as a SHOULD provides insufficient guidance to implementers and is thus is a likely source of interop failure
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tantek and if it really is OPTIONAL then make it a MAY
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cwebber2 mad ramblings at 5:30am: how to make ActivityPub *even more* distributed... http://dustycloud.org/blog/an-even-more-distributed-activitypub/
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ben_thatmustbeme Loqi played catch up this morning i see
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@dislexas so, finally, a federation standard candidate, and it makes sense!, I can't wait to use it: https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ (twitter.com/_/status/784080456379531264)
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@soapdog @TheRealPomax I dream of the day that we go back to open protocols and federation... one interesting thing is https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/ (twitter.com/_/status/784092824593661953)
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