#social 2016-11-29

2016-11-29 UTC
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strugee fyi @all: just suggested the SocialWG as a potential topic for The Changelog podcast (along with the IndieWeb and pump.io)
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@csarven @mjhan Thanks for sharing. Please see the latest official state of #LinkedData Notifications at https://www.w3.org/TR/ldn/ . #swib16 (twitter.com/_/status/803617951526043648)
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tantek I've made some Post Type Discovery changes but not going to be ready for a WD review / update today. :/
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tantek good morning #social
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tantek trackbot, start meeting
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RRSAgent I have made the request, trackbot
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trackbot Zakim, this will be SOCL
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Zakim ok, trackbot
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trackbot Meeting: Social Web Working Group Teleconference
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trackbot Date: 29 November 2016
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tantek present+
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julien can someone share the phone number for today's call?
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tantek julien see /topic
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julien /topic
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tantek julien https://www.w3.org/2015/10/social-wg-telecon.html
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julien present
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annbass present+
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ben_thatmust present+
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ben_thatmust regrets+ eprodrom
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tantek https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-29
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ben_thatmustbeme present- ben_thatmust
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ben_thatmustbeme present+
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tantek zakim, who is here?
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Zakim Present: tantek, julien, annbass, wilkie, ben_thatmustbeme
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Zakim ... oshepherd, dwhly, mattl, aaronpk, jet, csarven, rrika, KjetilK, Loqi, wseltzer, trackbot, sandro
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Zakim On IRC I see cwebber2, annbass, julien, Zakim, RRSAgent, KevinMarks, tantek, timbl, ben_thatmustbeme, raucao, bblfish_, strugee, bigbluehat, wilkie, pdurbin, rhiaro, bitbear,
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aaronpk present+
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cwebber2 present+
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tantek present+ sandro
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cwebber2 apparently I wasn't on irc :)
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tantek present+ cwebber2
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ben_thatmustbeme chair: tantek
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ben_thatmustbeme i can scribe
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ben_thatmustbeme scribenick:ben_thatmustbeme
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: aaronpk asked for approval of his Invited Expert status, got removed when he changed his affiliation
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: I'm happy to vouch for him again
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ben_thatmustbeme TOPIC: approval of minutes
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: we have the minutes from the F2F, and minutes from last telcon
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tantek https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-17-minutes
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ben_thatmustbeme ... take a look over them
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tantek https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-18-minutes
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wilkie haha cwebber2's goblin pic
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Loqi hehe
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ben_thatmustbeme laughs at the image in there too
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ben_thatmustbeme matt lee
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ben_thatmustbeme annb: i see mattl commenting but isn't listed as attending
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mattl i'm all mystery
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: he was sitting off to the side and didn't really get involved in the meeting, but was there so he didn't add himself to the list of attendees
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: we should correct the minutes to add him to that
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ben_thatmustbeme <ben_thatmustbeme> i believe he was only there day 1
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: i think he was there party of both days
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ben_thatmustbeme annbass: i think this brings up the issue of not knowing which nickname associates to who
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ben_thatmustbeme ... that would really only matter to archival reasons
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tantek https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-18-minutes
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tantek https://www.w3.org/wiki/Irc-people
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ben_thatmustbeme annbass: and i see mattl is in the room right now. Nice to meet you
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ben_thatmustbeme annbass: this would really speak to all W3C minutes, not just ours
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: i agree
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ben_thatmustbeme ... if you see a user name that is not noted in our minutes, they should be added in there
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ben_thatmustbeme annbass: this may be worth suggesting to the W3C realm of best practices
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: how are people's review of the minutes going? we had some good resolutions
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ben_thatmustbeme ... we added aaronpk as an editor of websub (previously pubsub)
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ben_thatmustbeme ... we made good progress on figuring out when we plan to take things to PR
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ben_thatmustbeme ... we are using that in our request for an extension without changing the scope of the group
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ben_thatmustbeme ... we also resolved that we are not planning any more F2F meetings, and we plan on doing monthly telcons
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ben_thatmustbeme annbass: its too bad, i was hoping to see you all
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: i updated the schedule on the homepage too
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mattl hey annbass
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julien +1
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tantek PROPOSED: Approve of minutes of the f2f https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-17-minutes https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-18-minutes with the addition of mattl as present both days
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cwebber2 +1
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annbass +1
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ben_thatmustbeme +1 (though i believe he was only there day 1, not both days)
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mattl -1 I wasn't there on the second day
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cwebber2 oh I must not have present+'ed in there
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cwebber2 I'll add myself
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wilkie +1
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cwebber2 since I was there
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tantek PROPOSED: Approve of minutes of the f2f https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-17-minutes https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-18-minutes with the addition of mattl as present on day 1 and cwebber both days
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cwebber2 I can add mattl
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cwebber2 since I'm already adding myself
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tantek RESOLVED: Approve of minutes of the f2f https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-17-minutes https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-18-minutes with the addition of mattl as present on day 1 and cwebber both days
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: move on to last week's telcon
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KevinMarks Present+
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cwebber2 attendees adjusted as discussed
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KevinMarks (by irc)
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tantek PROPOSED: approve https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-22-minutes of last week's telcon
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ben_thatmustbeme ... was pretty short so i'm assuming that will be easier for folks to review
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wilkie +1
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tantek RESOLVED: approve https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-11-22-minutes of last week's telcon
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ben_thatmustbeme TOPIC: websub
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: is it ready for a working draft?
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aaronpk https://www.w3.org/TR/websub/
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Loqi [Julien Genestoux] WebSub
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tantek permalink: https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-websub-20161124/
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Loqi [Julien Genestoux] WebSub
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: we published the updated WD last week, thats now live with the new name, and I also updated websub.rocks, new name, new text, updated logo, etc. all urls redirect to current urls
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ben_thatmustbeme ... i don't think theres any actual changes to the ED from then to now, certainly nothing significant
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: unless julien wants to add anything
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ben_thatmustbeme julien: i don't ...
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tantek https://github.com/w3c/websub/issues
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: to keep this moving along, are there any of the open issues you need the group's help on?
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aaronpk https://github.com/w3c/websub/issues/52
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: yes, 52, the contributing.md, i believe rhiaro was going to look up what we need to do for that
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tantek zakim, who is here?
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Zakim Present: tantek, julien, annbass, wilkie, ben_thatmustbeme, aaronpk, cwebber, sandro, cwebber2, KevinMarks
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Zakim On IRC I see cwebber2, annbass, julien, Zakim, RRSAgent, KevinMarks, tantek, timbl, ben_thatmustbeme, raucao, bblfish_, strugee, bigbluehat, wilkie, pdurbin, rhiaro, bitbear,
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Zakim ... oshepherd, dwhly, mattl, aaronpk, jet, csarven, rrika, KjetilK, Loqi, wseltzer, trackbot, sandro
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: ok, i don't know fi rhiaro is here, its the middle of the night where she is right now
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: sandro, is this something you can nudge amy or help with?
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ben_thatmustbeme sandro: lets just ping amy, i think she may have already started something on it
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: alright, lets give her until next week, and see where we are at
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ben_thatmustbeme ... were there any others we can take a look at?
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ben_thatmustbeme julien: i don't think so
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: so this is just work to do, and once these changes are made we can publish a new WD
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ben_thatmustbeme ... sound good?
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ben_thatmustbeme julien: yes
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: just a reminder, if you are going to try and get this to CR, you need to have it ready by next tuesday, if you want to get it to CR this year
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ben_thatmustbeme (discussion between julien and aaronpk regarding splitting up issues)
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: if there are issues you have solved but have not heard back, add the 'waiting for commentor' and add 'editorial' to those that are editorial if that helps you get down to 0 issues
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ben_thatmustbeme ... if you don't get it done by next tuesday, its not the end of the world, but it would push CR to next year
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ben_thatmustbeme julien: lets try
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: i think we can do it
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: great
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ben_thatmustbeme ... anything else on websub?
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ben_thatmustbeme ... shockingly i've heard 0 objections to the new name from anyone, anywhere, well done!
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ben_thatmustbeme TOPIC: Post Type Discovery
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: i have made some changes but there are additional changes i want to make before we publish a new WD
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ben_thatmustbeme ... hopefully be ready for WD next week
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ben_thatmustbeme ... but it won't be ready for CR. That will have to go to next year
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ben_thatmustbeme TOPIC: AS2
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ben_thatmustbeme ... I'm hoping evan is still on the call
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ben_thatmustbeme (missed that first sentence)
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tantek are we ready for a new CR on AS2?
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tantek looking at open issues: https://github.com/w3c/activitystreams/issues
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: did we lose evan?
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ben_thatmustbeme ... i don't see him on IRC anymore
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: oh, evan sent regrets, so i don't think there is much we can do on AS2
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tantek https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/DocumentStatus
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ben_thatmustbeme TOPIC: document status
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: does anyone who is working on any document want to update us on the status?
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cwebber2 I don't have one this week
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ben_thatmustbeme if you post the link, post it with /me
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sandro https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/webmention/
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KevinMarks There is a new websub implementation in mastodon.social this week
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ben_thatmustbeme <ben_thatmustbeme> KevinMarks, cool
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ben_thatmustbeme assumes this is all still OTR
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sandro yep
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: for SWP, amy isn't here, we should get it updated to say websub
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aaronpk https://micropub.rocks/implementation-report/server/39/ziALOZ1xn5Qqm5Y5S25v
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: we have a new implementation of micropub from someone outside the group
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aaronpk https://micropub.rocks/reports 6 reports in total
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ben_thatmustbeme ... that brings us to 6 reports now
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ben_thatmustbeme ... any how many are outside the WG?
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ben_thatmustbeme i think Jay Robinson is IN the group
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ben_thatmustbeme can someone take over scribing?
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wilkie I can do that
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wilkie scribenick: wilkie
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ben_thatmustbeme thanks wilkie
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wilkie tantek: is 22 required by servers?
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wilkie aaronpk: it is the same as 21. required by servers and optional for clients
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wilkie tantek: what are the next steps? focusing on websub right?
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wilkie aaronpk: yes. focusing on websub and also moving so last week was kind of lost
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wilkie tantek: ok. we can reassess that when websub is in CR which is your next goal?
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wilkie aaronpk: yep
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tantek zakim, who is here?
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Zakim Present: tantek, julien, annbass, wilkie, ben_thatmustbeme, aaronpk, cwebber, sandro, cwebber2, KevinMarks
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wilkie tantek: alright. is csarven on the call?
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Zakim On IRC I see cwebber2, annbass, julien, Zakim, RRSAgent, KevinMarks, tantek, timbl, ben_thatmustbeme, raucao, bblfish_, strugee, bigbluehat, wilkie, pdurbin, rhiaro, bitbear,
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Zakim ... oshepherd, dwhly, mattl, aaronpk, jet, csarven, rrika, KjetilK, Loqi, wseltzer, trackbot, sandro
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wilkie tantek: without csarven or rhiaro we can't do LDN
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wilkie tantek: so that takes us to the end of our agenda
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wilkie tantek: anyone have any other issues to bring up?
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cwebber2 has nothing else left, proposes break for lunch ;)
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wilkie tantek: I will be about 5 hours off due to meetings in hawaii
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wilkie tantek: I should be theoretically be able to be up for the meetings but it means a 5:00 meeting so I might not be very alert
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wilkie tantek: so meetings for me will be tentative so evan will be chairing the next couple of weeks
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wilkie tantek: we will still be proceeding and making progress with everything in CR and keep pushing test suites and getting implementation reports
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wilkie tantek: hopefully get the CRs out by the end of the year
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wilkie tantek: lunch was proposed so I'll give back the last ten minutes so you can get lunch or late brunch etc
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annbass thanks all!
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julien bye! thanks!
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wilkie tantek: thanks and we'll talk next week!
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aaronpk i am officially back in the group now too :) thanks
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wilkie yay aaronpk good to have you "back"
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tantek great! we got something done today :)
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme++ for minuting
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tantek wilkie++ for minuting
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Loqi wilkie has 40 karma
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tantek trackbot, end meeting
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trackbot is ending a teleconference.
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Zakim As of this point the attendees have been tantek, julien, annbass, ben_thatmust, wilkie, ben_thatmustbeme, aaronpk, cwebber, sandro, cwebber2, KevinMarks
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trackbot Zakim, list attendees
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