#social 2017-04-14

2017-04-14 UTC
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@kevinmarks @ITBeHa @badlogicgames @sirlanda @chris_koerner @rmoestl There's micropub for Update and Delete now https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#update (twitter.com/_/status/852812624743899136)
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aaronpk we should publish an updated https://www.w3.org/TR/social-web-protocols/
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Loqi [Amy Guy] Social Web Protocols
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Loqi it is probable
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sandro yep. Did we delegate that to Amy? If not, maybe throw that on the agenda for Tuesday
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sandro (I just sent out that we're having a meeting then)
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aaronpk i don't think we did yet
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cwebber looks like we might have someone writing a Django implementation of AP
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cwebber I hope it happens
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tantek !tell rhiaro now that we have an updated set of PRs and CRs that is likely stable for at least a few weeks, might be a good time to publish a new WD of Social Web Protocols accordingly since it's last been published in November of last year
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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ajordan tantek: though AP might not be stable until next week right? if we're gonna restart CR
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ajordan cwebber: \o/
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tantek ajordan - no. it's a CR now, it'll still be a CR then. hence it's publication state is stable.
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tantek its* publication state
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ajordan oh I guess the social web protocols document is higher-level than that
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ajordan right on
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aaronpk tantek: the editor's draft of https://w3c-social.github.io/social-web-protocols/ is up to date. I suggested publishing a new WD this morning
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tantek aaronpk great. I think we should have a standing resolution that allows rhiaro to publish at will. Other groups do that for WDs, and this is just a non-rec-track WD so that should be even easier
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aaronpk agreed
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tantek in fact, I think we should do that for all our remaining WDs, just to reduce stop energy
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tantek jf2 is also a non-rec-track WD, we could resolve to allow updates to that whenever the editor decides also
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tantek similarly I don't know if I can get PTD in CR shape especially test suite and such so that too (despite being officially rec-track)
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ajordan 's paperwork to join SocialWG just went through :-)
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sandro :-)
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sandro Welcome! Next meeting is Tuesday, 11am US/Eastern, hope you can call in.
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cwebber ajordan: it'll in fact be about resolving the current issues re: whether AP "resets the clock" on CR->PR
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cwebber ajordan: btw some clarity, AP wouldn't revert from CR, but there's a time window of minimum waiting time of CR -> PR, and that's at what's of risk of being upset
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sandro cwebber, I did some more poking, and it looks like we'll be okay if we have to reset the clock. In fact, we can buy ourselves another month if we really have to. Hoping we wont be cutting it that close, but we can if we must.
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cwebber sandro: whew!
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cwebber sandro: in a sense that's good news, since I convinced the possible django author to sit down and comb through the spec since they had so many questions and I was like "hint hint this weekend is probably the best window to be filing issues you notice right now..."
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sandro (It turns out, technically, we just need to request PR before we expire. Then the PR period, and the REC, can happen after the group is gone. Not ideal, but acceptable.)
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cwebber they already bumped into the "mandatory client-to-server" part that started this whole snafu
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cwebber sandro: huh! interesting
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sandro So, basically, if someone comes up with a fatal problem while implementing in the next couple weeks, we can fix it.
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cwebber so with my "threatening to make the ActivityPub test suite into a MUD"
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cwebber I managed to not do it, and yet :)
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sandro and yet...?
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sandroid (Testing)
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cwebber it's using most of the UI stuff from Mudsync, which I demo'ed in the video on this page: https://www.gnu.org/software/8sync/
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cwebber so it's not a MUD, the UI is not quite MUD-like, and yet, it's sitting on that foundation
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cwebber lollerskates
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cwebber at least it's working now. it's taken me forever to get past whatever cognitive block that I had on things but implementation is moving along now.
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ajordan sandro: I hope to too! I'll be on a train with (probably) bad internet access though. so maybe just IRC
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ajordan we'll see
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ajordan :)
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ajordan and thanks!
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ajordan cwebber: right yeah
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ajordan I'm on public-socialwg@, that's how I know about AP "restarting"
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cwebber ajordan: ah yeah :)
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ajordan \o/
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ajordan loll cwebber
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ajordan you and your MUDs :P
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cwebber ajordan: heh :)
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ajordan I love it
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cwebber Whoa coooool
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cwebber https://gitlab.com/dustyweb/activitypub.rocks/issues/2
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cwebber someone submitted a cool AP logo
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