#social 2017-08-07

2017-08-07 UTC
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Loqi
[Eugen] ActivityPub implementation progress: 1. JSON representations 2. Processing incoming data <-- we are here 3. Sending data
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jaywink
waits eagerly to see how mastodon will handle author verification. I guess that will be the way to do it then :P
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cwebber2
pretty sure it's http signatures for posts, and handling signing objects is a Future TODO (TM)
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cwebber2
in other words, good for direct delivery, but to jaywink's grumbling, forwarding private messages securely is still to come :)
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jaywink
well, even this leaves implementation details. also, forwarding private messages IS possible, if the audience is known in the object. which I guess in mastodon it isn't :P
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jaywink
which unfortunately means mastodon wont benefit that much from AP - I mean the fact that Ostatus doesn't allow proper delivery to all conversation participants wont be fixed
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jaywink
(it's the reason I personally don't use mastodon - broken conversations. but then it's pure microblogging anyway so maybe that fact is less visible than "post" based systems)
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cwebber2
jaywink: I think the audience is known in the object, you just don't have proof they said it without the object being signed :P
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cwebber2
jaywink: they're incrementing there :)
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jaywink
if the audience is known it's trivial to look it up?
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cwebber2
look up the original post?
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cwebber2
yes and that's the method they're taking currently iirc
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jaywink
as said, waiting to see *how* this is implemented, before I do anything :D
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cwebber2
you have to take an extra step to look it up but it should work assuming you have access to it... with some exceptions of forwarding to followers
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cwebber2
but we've been over this
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cwebber2
like 20 times
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jaywink
just saying "http signatures" doesn't really give any answers
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jaywink
let's do it again tomorrow :D
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cwebber2
eternal signature convo on a spotless mind
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jaywink
hey but I'm not talking about signatures any more
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