#social 2017-09-20

2017-09-20 UTC
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cwebber tantek: lol
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cwebber tantek: wait, does that mean csarven has till the end of the year to finish his too
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tantek cwebber: dunno. for rhiaro her PhD subject was very much about the topics discussed in SWWG, so we had to be a real thing, and "active" and stuff
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tantek but now that that's done, we're good to go
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aaronpk websub spec has been updated based on today's call! https://w3c.github.io/websub/
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Loqi [Julien Genestoux] WebSub
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tantek \o/
cwebber, xmpp-social, wilkie, jankusanagi_, er1ncandescent, mattl, ajordan, astronouth7303, bwn, tsyesika, MMN-o, saranix, dwhly, jet, csarven, raucao, DenSchub, bitbear, howl, rhiaro and aaronpk joined the channel
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csarven cwebber: I'm in a thesis inception, so... plenty of time!
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cwebber csarven: keep sleeping then? ;)
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csarven Unlike some people's thesis, decentralised Social Web is the simple stuff part of my thesis.
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xmpp-social [ajordan] *gets popcorn*
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ben_thatmustbeme watches for rhiaro's response
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cwebber oh huh
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cwebber someone gave a talk on Mastodon and ActivityPub at a conference https://speakerdeck.com/furoshiki/implementation-of-web-standards-in-mastodon
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cwebber (though it says Mastodon doesn't support sharedInbox, which it does?)
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tantek (as of version XXX date YYY?)
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cwebber by the release 1.6 which Pawoo is on I'm pretty sure
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tantek perhaps someone not involved directly with Mastodon or AP could updated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software)#Technology accordingly to mention its partial AP support as of release 1.6
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Gargron cwebber: i think that person believed sharedInbox is bulk delivery, e.g. not just "one-to-many" but "many-to-many"
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cwebber Gargron: ahh
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Gargron actually let's start talking about that again
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Gargron websub delivered any number of items
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Gargron you could bulk together multiple things
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Gargron even if you say http2, there's still overhead in the rails request processing cycle
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Gargron so how about just let people POST a simple json array of items to the inbox
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Gargron if there's an error, you just retry the same payload later
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Gargron after all, everything has an id so duplicate postings wouldnt mean duplicate side effects
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er1ncandescent Gargron: Honestly if we're going that far I'd probably want to think bigger
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erincandescent Gargron: e.g. long lived websocket for bidirectional delivery?
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