#social 2017-11-23

2017-11-23 UTC
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@dustyweb
@jaywink BTW I think your comment there is a bit off: signatures *are* the way forward now. https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#authorization links to https://www.w3.org/wiki/SocialCG/ActivityPub/Authentication_Authorization which specifies signatures.
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xmpp-social
[Takyoji] For clarification: an Actor can only Follow explicitly another Actor, there's no notion of 'custom collections/streams' possible (e.g. example.com/alice/political, example.com/alice/art, etc), correct?
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] That's a good question
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] I suppose in theory you could do that but AFAIK there's nothing normative about that so in practice I think you'll find it doesn't work
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] Actually https://w3c.github.io/activitypub/#follow-activity-outbox would seem to imply it's Actors only
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xmpp-social
[Takyoji] Also, I was thinking conversely with Actors, of having different
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xmpp-social
[Takyoji] 'followers' collections, e.g. 'friends', 'family', etc. But that could probably be easily implemented in some proprietary C2S addition
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] Well you can do that with Collections easily enough
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xmpp-social
[Takyoji] It feels like some of the vocabulary taken from ActivityStreams reuses a lot of stuff in different way than original intended. The 'Follow'
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xmpp-social
[Takyoji] activity in ActivityStreams reads as if it's only about it happening, not as it causing any side-effects.
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xmpp-social
[Takyoji] oh, duh, I guess Add would be enough to have those custom 'circles' (to use Google+'s vocabulary)
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xmpp-social
[Takyoji] Although, there wouldn't seem to be any defined way to create said custom collections. (Other than a Create activity, with some custom object type, maybe)
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] Takyoji: that's how
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] Create
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] csarven: omg that looks amazing. I'll look at it when I'm not with family :'D
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] cwebber2: not sure if you staged the spec for publication yet but the images in the tutorial mess with the layout width on mobile
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] Just needs some CSS tweaking, we can get it when we go to REC too
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] ... I'll file an issue to track that
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xmpp-social
[Takyoji] Just add: img { max-width: 100% }, as a simple CSS fix
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cwebber2
Takyoji: btw re: following anything, there is no explicit actor type in as2 anymore
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cwebber2
so you can follow anything with an inbox technically
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cwebber2
an actor is something with an inbox that shows up in the actor field ;)
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cwebber2
ajordan: takyoji: And thanks for the advice re: css
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] ?
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Loqi
[Christopher Allan Webber] ActivityPub
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rhiaro
kk! Still waiting on director approval or a meeting for the transition request
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] cwebber2: I'm not seeing images show up at all on that URL
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] Also happy thanksgiving!!
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erincandescent
cwebber2: oh god, almost all objects in my impl have an inbox :P
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erincandescent
Thankfully, not inboxes, or things would get very meta
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puckipedia
wouldn't an inboxes inbox just be the inbox itself
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puckipedia
anyways huh it wouldn't even be difficult to give everything an inbox in Kroeg
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puckipedia
say ... about two lines of code
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] I'm just gonna go ahead and skip this conversation to avoid getting nerdsniped :P
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xmpp-social
[ajordan] Again