#social 2018-08-11

2018-08-11 UTC
tantek, tantek_ and minty-hime joined the channel
# 01:03 
minty-hime hallo
# 01:14 
saranix greetings
# 01:17 
minty-hime is this the best place to talk about using the activitypub spec and tools related to it?
# 01:19 
saranix yes!
# 01:19 
minty-hime ah cool :o
# 01:19 
minty-hime if I want to make a project using it, is my best option to just implement it myself?
# 01:20 
saranix meaning, no library? It's up to you. I would say yes but some others would point out the more mature libs. It also depends on your language
# 01:29 
minty-hime well, I want to make an end product on top of the activitypub spec. kroeg is the only thing I found that looks like a fully implemented server. Theres activitypub libraries?
# 01:29 
minty-hime And really at this point I'm just conceptual and I'm usually up to learning new languages. Javascript is what I've been using lately.
# 01:42 
saranix cool. what's your product? There's a Go library I think and a python library by cwebber2 that is being revived by pantherse
# 01:42 
minty-hime tldr tumblr clone
# 01:43 
minty-hime just the blogging portion
# 01:44 
saranix neat. lol I thought maybe I knew what that one does until you said blogging portion
# 01:45 
minty-hime what'd you think tumblr does? its a microblogging platform, sorta.
# 01:46 
saranix err... I dunno I guess I always thought it was a bookmarking thing
# 01:47 
minty-hime ah, no. Its a blogging platform that has a lot of features for blogging other blogs while keeping a trail of who blogged who and what the original source is.
# 01:56 
saranix oh yeah it's probably really easy to lose track of "re-boosted" mastodons
# 02:03 
minty-hime also tumblr has a more long-form focus
# 02:03 
minty-hime sadly ads have been completely destroying it
# 03:47 
DigDug long term != ads
# 03:54 
minty-hime I said long form, not long term
# 03:54 
minty-hime as in the blog posts have the option to be lengthy and thought out with multiple images
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# 09:08 
JasonRobinson[m] https://fosdem.org/2019/news/2018-08-10-call-for-participation/
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# 18:31 
aaronpk gargron just reposted one of my posts and I got slammed with traffic haha
# 18:32 
aaronpk all the mastodon instances fetched the post URL, my actor URL, my .well-known webfinger, as well as my outbox
# 18:33 
nightpool[m] edge caching is great
# 18:33 
aaronpk i thought activitypub's delivery system was supposed to prevent that "swarm" problem
# 18:34 
nightpool[m] sure, during delivery
# 18:34 
aaronpk eh?
# 18:34 
nightpool[m] if I send a post to someone, they don't have to re-fetch it
# 18:34 
aaronpk but apparently they do
# 18:34 
nightpool[m] but you didn't send the post to those mastodon instances
# 18:35 
nightpool[m] gargron did
# 18:35 
nightpool[m] They can't just take gargron's word for what you said, he could have written anything in there.
# 18:35 
aaronpk sure, and this worked fine
# 18:36 
aaronpk so why can't we just avoid the whole fat ping thing entirely and have everything work this way?
# 18:36 
nightpool[m] because boosts are a pretty small percent of normal traffic
# 18:36 
nightpool[m] and it adds a ton of latency to the system
# 18:37 
nightpool[m] if someone posts something on glitch.social, i generally see it on cybrespace within a second or less.
# 18:37 
nightpool[m] fat pings would make that into multiple seconds, for every post
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