#social 2018-09-03

2018-09-03 UTC
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aaronpk
has anyone looked at this as an alternative to LDS and/or HTTP signatures? https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-erdtman-jose-cleartext-jws-00
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saranix
jose--
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Loqi
jose has -1 karma over the last year
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saranix
I give them credit for "The rules defined below take the essence from the ES6 specification and describe what that means in practical terms." though
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aaronpk
i'm not super familiar with this, what are the downsides?
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saranix
one of the hardest/most annoying things about the jose specs has always been "refer to other spec" littered throughout
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saranix
just that all it does is signatures, and I'm fairly certain the spec text is longer than the entire AP spec which obviously does a lot more than just signatures. IOW convoluted.
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aaronpk
I mean the AP spec also refers out to other specs a lot... like activitystreams core plus activitystreams vocab
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aaronpk
and it also doesn't link out to specs where it should, like http signatures :P
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saranix
yeah, I suppose it helps that w3c specs look like actual documents and ietf rfcs look like they were transcribed by Samual B. Morse
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aaronpk
anyway i'm more curious about whether that cleartext jws seems like an easier approach than LDS
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aaronpk
it seems like it has a clear definition of the canonicalization method, although i'm not sure how hard that is to actually implement
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saranix
looks harder to me
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nightpool[m]
harder then full rdf canonicalization?
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aaronpk
sounds like javascript (ES6) is the canonical JSON, so it's already built in to that platform
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saranix
hah, well, both are off the meter for me... they've crossed the threshold of I can't be arsed to bother with it... tough to get a relative reading on how much I can't be arsed :-P
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aaronpk
same tbh lol
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saranix
good find though
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saranix
aaronpk++
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Loqi
aaronpk has 15 karma in this channel over the last year (312 in all channels)
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saranix
sorry if I seemed negative
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