#social 2019-02-01
2019-02-01 UTC
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dansup cwebber++
# cwebber encrypted p2p-deliverable demo of activitypub stuff works :)
# jdormit cwebber: Wooo, congrats! Great news for you and AP
# jdormit What did getting that grant involve?
# cwebber thanks jdormit :)
# cwebber jdormit: filling out an application (not hard) and several years of mostly unpaid labor on standards that got me some noteriety (hard) :)
# jdormit Haha fair enough
# jdormit Glad to hear you're finally getting some funding :)
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# fr33domlover cwebber2, how does it store stuff? ipfs? torrent? something else? and who fetches the content, the AP client (by downloading torrents etc.) or server (by offering the content to its users via regular http)?
# JasonRobinson[m] cwebber2 (IRC): wow pretty epic, congrats!
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cwebber2 fr33domlover: the demo does the simplest thing possible to demonstrate things clearly just to be a simple demo. there's no AP C2S so I could focus on S2S only, the web server also acts as a minimal client. The way it saves it is by saving the content-addressed encrypted "chunks" to a local store, but then if it doesn't have the chunks, it has a preconfigured set of peers that it looks for the chunks there and saves them locally
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# jdormit so here's my current AP conundrum
# jdormit if I receive a follow and want to auto-accept it, am I creating a race condition on the server that sent the follow if I send the Accept within the same request where I received the follow?
# jdormit e.g. suppose the sending server only handle Accepts for which it knows it sent the follow
# nightpool[m] the idea of doing any remote request inside of a different request creeps me out
# jdormit although I would guess the sending server would persist the activity before attempting to deliver it, so maybe I am overthinking it...
# jdormit yeah PHP is garbage
# nightpool[m] how do you know the remote server won't just timeout?
# jdormit I'd send the request async
# jdormit but I'm still worried about the possibility that the sending server receives my Accept before it receives my response to the Follow
# nightpool[m] I'm less concerned about that.
# jdormit yeah I may be overthinking this
# nightpool[m] ideally they've committed the follow to the database before sending it, and if they haven't then that will be a fun bug for you two to figure out but I don't think it's very likely
# jdormit haha yeah
# jdormit I really don't like PHP's cgi-style request execution
# jdormit the script only lives for the duration of the request, so everything needs to get done within that context
# jdormit or you do something janky like send a second request to your own server from within the script to execute some async action in another request
# nightpool[m] ?
# nightpool[m] most php apps I know use a job queueing system
# nightpool[m] at least, the federated web ones
# jdormit yeah, that would be ideal but I am writing a library and targeting WordPress
# jdormit so it can't rely on any queueing services
# nightpool[m] 😬 ah
# jdormit hmm reactphp looks promising maybe
# jdormit https://reactphp.org/
# jdormit it says it doesn't require any extensions
# jdormit well, seems like I'll be safe-ish doing async requests. I'll do it that way and see if anything breaks down the line 🤷
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# cwebber hello from the road
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