#stream 2022-11-24

2022-11-24 UTC
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@aaronpk ↩️ Also can we maybe *not* just hop from one silo to another that could just as easily be purchased and dismantled? We've got 20 years of documentation of this, and I'm just tired of it. https://indieweb.org/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/1595597923185700864)
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[tantek] aaronpk apparently Hive and Hive Social are different 😳 https://twitter.com/LaurenWalshArt/status/1595061671021649922
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Loqi [@LaurenWalshArt] Twitter not understanding that Hive and Hive Social are different companies and dragging them in a scathing thread is the most Twitter thing that Twitter has done.
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aaronpk wat
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aaronpk this is what i was talking about https://www.hivesocial.app/
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[tantek] oh hey a jwz post: https://twitter.com/jwz/status/1595530261533319168
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Loqi [@jwz] @steve_lieber As an app-only walled garden, Hive Social is not a part of the World Wide Web in any meaningful sense. Anyone letting it get their hooks into them is making a familiar and terrible mistake. We've been here before. Don't let it happen again. https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/03/instagram-hates-the-internet/
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aaronpk is there another one??
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[tantek] 😂 https://twitter.com/shadiaminart/status/1594465936672755713
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Loqi [@shadiaminart] Please what is Hive why do we have to make more social sites I am not strong enough to keep up https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiCuUbDWYAAGSAI.jpg
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[tantek] moar aaronpk: https://twitter.com/CrashScreen/status/1594673067577511937
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Loqi [@CrashScreen] So basically there are two Hive Socials. The one everyone is going to has been taking some strong stances against bigotry, includes the option to select your pronouns (which I don't believe any Conservative social app would), and they sacked the person who tweeted ableist stuff. https://twitter.com/WritNelson/status/1594669107894685696
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aaronpk there's also this https://www.thehivesocialclub.com/
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[tantek] ah different logos, there's a start: https://twitter.com/EddieMakesGames/status/1594660603746025473
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Loqi [@EddieMakesGames] There appears to be two companies with the same name... Not confusing at all for @TheHIVE_Social (Note, difference vs @/hivesocialapp) One is considered good - The other bad. https://www.teenvogue.com/story/hive-social-app-gains-traction-with-gen-z https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiFd5sYXwAIdlUh.png
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aaronpk wat neither of those is this logo https://twitter.com/thehive_social
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aaronpk ok here is the other one https://twitter.com/hivesocialapp
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aaronpk but the website doesn't load for me? http://www.hivesocial.com/
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aaronpk also they haven't tweeted since 2018
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[tantek] that logo looks like the same shape as the one on the left
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[tantek] what is Hive Social
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Hive Social" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Hive Social is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] ^ aaronpk, feel free to stub. I believe [fluffy] had some thoughts too
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[tantek] assuming we're talking about the same Hive Social
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aaronpk i don't know what i'm talking about anymore
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[fluffy] hivesocial.app is the one that everyone’s gotten marketed into recently via an astroturf campaign, yeah
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[fluffy] I wrote a mastodon thread about it, been meaning to flesh it out into a blog entry (I have so many other blog entries to flesh out)
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[fluffy] Here’s some threads for reference: https://meow.social/@Devourer_ITA/109387689338526116 https://plush.city/@fluffy/109383634218180489 https://plush.city/@fluffy/109383356209062686
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Loqi [Dev, open comms :verified:] Hell nah that Hive thing is susAppears out of nowhere right as people leave for Mastodon, millions of downloads in days, app only, no accessibility, and no TOSI've seen people say it's financed by the CCP/right wing millionaires (help me find a sourc...
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[fluffy] [tantek] [aaronpk] ^
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aaronpk i mean there's certainly enough threads about it to collect into a page
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[fluffy] hm, there’s another good thread I saw but I can’t find again
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[fluffy] here it is: https://twitter.com/hmsnofun/status/1594786675011375104
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Loqi [@hmsnofun] hello, i'm a journalist for six different corporate media sites you've never heard of. don't go to cohost or mastodon, they're bad and unsafe. instead go to HIVE, a highly polished socmed platform you've never heard of until today that definitely isn't funded by the CIA
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[tantek] yeah that's worth documenting it quickly so it pops up in search results while this whole flee from Twitter thing is happening and people will be searching for summaries of the options
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[tantek] looool that last clause and aaronpk's observation that it immediately asks for all photos access 👀
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@tw2113 I am Indieweb and so can you! (twitter.com/_/status/1595617153633456129)
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@imkylelambert ↩️ That was it for me. So far I follow people outside and inside the server I’m on http://indieweb.social so my feed is just people I follow. You can look at your local server feed too but that’s not the default (twitter.com/_/status/1595630130281742337)
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@textpattern We have just set up a new Mastodon account. Please feel free to follow us there at https://indieweb.social/@textpattern #mastodon #cms #opensource #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1595718399824478208)
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@villaronrubia Are you on Mastodon? You can find me there https://indieweb.social/@drdvo (twitter.com/_/status/1595781318486499328)
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@WorldsEndless "We live in a reality of polyphonic first-person narratives". Excellent thoughts from @mariapopova@indieweb.social https://www.themarginalian.org/2022/11/21/tenderness-olga-tokarczuk-nobel-prize/ (twitter.com/_/status/1595807460480077824)
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@localherodotbiz ↩️ Don’t count on it. He has not yet followed through with #indieweb integration and that is easier than #activitypub (twitter.com/_/status/1595811432565571584)
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@localherodotbiz ↩️ I am not sure who this woman is but plenty of clowns seem to follow her. Still she is right about the #indieweb even if she is late to join the bandwagon (twitter.com/_/status/1595810906083975168)
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@redblobgames Recent interest in Mastodon reminded me that I went to the 2017 IndieWeb Summit https://2017.indieweb.org/ Lots of co… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1595843559638212608 (twitter.com/_/status/1595843559638212608)
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@kteare #ActivityPub & #Mastodon are in the news. A long-time passionate group of believers in the indieweb has recently found a use case. @elonmusk has inspired many opponents to try this new distributed social technology. It is time to understand it. https://thatwastheweek.substack.com/p/the-thanksgiving-issue?utm_source=twitter&sd=pf (twitter.com/_/status/1595895190929084417)
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@chadkoh ↩️ stuff off several times a week, it's been a great way to strike up conversations with passersby. That's more valuable than the actual harvest, so I posted a notice. We'll see what happens with this small exercise in neighborhood socialism. https://indieweb.social/@fgbjr/109401027348672736 (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1595909529006637057)