#stream 2024-01-08

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Loqi [social.lol/@bix] We’re discussing the first suggestion here. #Webmention #WordPress #IndieWebhttps://wordpress.org/support/topic/let-facepile-avatars-link-to-the-like-repost-etc/ (https://social.lol/@bix/111717334595797883)
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Loqi [gregorlove.com] I made some improvements to native comments on my site today. I have had Akismet running for several years now and it’s worked well at preventing about 98% of spam comments. A few would still get through each week. They were never displayed publicly, but I would still need to... (https://gregorlove.com/2024/01/reducing-native-comment-spam/)
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Loqi [gregorlove.com] I made some improvements to native comments on my site today. I have had Akismet running for several years now and it’s worked well at preventing about 98% of spam comments. A few would still get through each week. They were never displayed publicly, but I would still need to... (https://gregorlove.com/2024/01/reducing-native-comment-spam/)
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Loqi [toot.lqdev.tech/@lqdev] New RSS links #rss #indieweb #identity https://www.luisquintanilla.me/feed/new-rss-feed-links?utm_medium=feed (https://toot.lqdev.tech/@lqdev/111717643818771052)
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Loqi [beesbuzz.biz] It’s way too easy to get heated while in the thick of things and for bad-faith interpretations to take over from the point anyone’s trying to make, and that is absolutely a two-way street.1For now I’ve removed Toot! from my phone and DNS-blocked plush.city from my home... (http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/8166-Taking-another-Mastodon-break)
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Loqi [mastodon.me.uk/@gilest] I think we need more self-hosted personal publishing tools that aren't Wordpress and don't require use of a terminal to set up. A bit of a rant: https://gilest.org/indie-easy.html #indieweb (https://mastodon.me.uk/@gilest/111719817768415422)
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Loqi [tweesecake.social/@weirdwriter] Make the indie web easier https://gilest.org/indie-easy.html #IndieWeb (https://tweesecake.social/@weirdwriter/111720277117060979)
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Loqi [dmv.community/@jcrabapple] The #indieweb and #fediverse go together like peas and carrots. (https://dmv.community/@jcrabapple/111720453578500887)
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Loqi [herestomwiththeweather.com] I moved my account from @herestomwiththeweather@mastodon.social to @tom@herestomwiththeweather.com on January 2nd. In the spirit of learning from post-mortems, I am documenting a few mistakes I made.... (https://herestomwiththeweather.com/2024/01/08/otisburg.social-move-post-mortem/)
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Loqi [thegoblin.market/@lazcorp] New blog post: About the web in 2024https://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/blogs/artists-notebook/posts/about-the-web-in-2024 #IndieWeb #Blog #blogging (https://thegoblin.market/@lazcorp/111720876942318415)
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Loqi [dmv.community/@jcrabapple] @jemal RSS is a great solution. I subscribe to mostly #indieweb and #smallweb blogs via RSS, and keep the major news publications in a list on Mastodon. (https://dmv.community/@jcrabapple/111720940245712526)
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Loqi [mastodon.design/@philipp] I’m excited to announce that my new #personalwebsite is live ✨https://philipptemmel.comI finally have a tiny home on the internet again, dedicated to what I am passionate about, and filled with what I am reading, writing, and working on (coming soon). This is not just a... (https://mastodon.design/@philipp/111721068182994261)
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[tantek] Giles++ indie-easy++
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Loqi Giles has 1 karma over the last year
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Loqi indie-easy has 1 karma over the last year
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Loqi [social.synesthesia.co.uk/@julian] Reply to 'How to write about blogs'... (https://social.synesthesia.co.uk/@julian/111721240556971095)
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[tantek] So meta
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Loqi [fosstodon.org/@travisfw] @alcinnz is there a guide? an indieweb launcher? what makes the #indieweb a thing? (https://fosstodon.org/@travisfw/111721448917368970)
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Loqi [indieweb.social/tags/indieweb] Let’s Make the IndieWeb EasierIt needs to be easier to install and use your own website. But building the right onboarding experience may be more important than building the right tool.https://jeremy.hu/lets-make-the-indieweb-easier/#EN #IndieWeb #WordPress (https://jeremy.hu/lets-make-the-indieweb-easier/)
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lazcorp wow, today is the day for blogposts and Mastodon posts about the IndieWeb!
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Loqi [tilde.zone/@xandra] these are exactly my thoughts on the #indieweb barriers for beginners getting into #webdev or building a personal website. definitely resonates, so thanks for writing it, giles!if your tool or platform (or SSG...) requires users to start with a command line, it's not easy enough... (https://tilde.zone/@xandra/111721751354682628)
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[tantek] finally the backlash
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[tantek] this is worth a page
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lazcorp [tantek] I wouldn't call it a backlash as such
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lazcorp [tantek] and https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started already divides how to get started into 3 levels depending on technical experience (service, CMS, self-starters)
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[tantek] yeah we should be more upfront about SSGs being for self-starters only
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[tantek] instead of being a CMS "option" (because they really aren't)
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lazcorp I think that something on the front page might be useful - a re-iteration of the "three paths to setup your site" bit from the Getting_Started page
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lazcorp and maybe rephrasing point 1 as "Not a techie, but want a convenient place to publish your thoughts?"
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lazcorp i.e. stressing that you don't need to be a developer of any kind to start with IndieWeb
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lazcorp all in a nice colourful block on the front page
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[tantek] lazcorp it's a longstanding effort already
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[tantek] what are three columns
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Loqi 2019/homepage is a project to update the IndieWeb community homepage in 2019, in particular with a three column layout designed for onboarding three common sets of visitors and new IndieWeb community members https://indieweb.org/three_columns
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[tantek] design is hard
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lazcorp I'm happy to contribute if/where I can
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[tantek] great! lots of opportunities / request to contribute on that page ^
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lazcorp added myself as a potential contributor to bo0th the /2019 and /2021 pages
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lazcorp [edit] added myself as a potential contributor to both the 2019/homepage and 2021/homepage
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[tantek] I mean more than "contributors" we need actual contributions to the requests on the page.
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[tantek] anyone in the community is welcome to dip-in and contribute what they can when they can
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lazcorp https://indieweb.org/2021/homepage looks like the most recent one to add to?
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[tantek] there's always folks interested in helping, yet it's harder to turn that interest into productive contributions to making progress
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[tantek] sort of. /2021/homepage is/was tracydurnell's attempt at a proposed update
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[tantek] part of the challenge here is that because it's a community page, single-author one-off updates are not really sufficient — we need a homepage which itself is conducive to (easy for) others to help update, and that requires a collaborative design approach
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[tantek] a snapshot update is a great way to show a brainstorm for what is possible, however more importantly it needs all the "about" stuff around it like how to update the page, when things should move or get dropped or added etc.
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Loqi [mastodon.social/@fromjason] Remember sites like #textsfromlastnight? The type of aggregator sites that flourished on the web before everyone moved to Facebook Pages?Where have all the websites gone? #smallweb #indieweb #openweb https://fromjason.xyz/p/notebook/where-have-all-the-websites-gone/ (https://mastodon.social/@fromjason/111722066913846821)
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lazcorp [tantek] - an idea for some alternative text near the top of the Getting Started page: https://indieweb.org/User:Www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk#Wiki_ideas
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[tantek] we need to NOT use language like "non-technical" because (1) it is insulting, (2) it is inaccurate.
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[tantek] plenty of technical users really don't want to futz with command-line gibberish
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aaronpk I am a very technical user and my patience for very technical things is often zero
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lazcorp I've removed "non-technical" - I agree that it can be seen as insulting and can be inaccurate
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Loqi [mastodon.social/@enindu] I have just Joined the IndieWeb!https://indieweb.org/User:Enindu.com#indieweb #personalwebsite #blog #portfolio #profile (https://mastodon.social/@enindu/111722862018284216)
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Loqi [hachyderm.io/@akashgoswami] @baldur see before I decided to launch my own website to host my own content, I did consider just posting on Medium and writing and posting using an app that connected to MediumGlad I ended up going with my own website in the end#OwnYourData #IndieWeb (https://hachyderm.io/@akashgoswami/111722852602366428)
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[tantek] I like that. Joining the IndieWeb means creating your User: page (which proves you have a domain and have set it up with enough IndieAuth/RelMeAuth to make it work)