#stream 2024-05-15

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Loqi [paulrobertlloyd.com] I’ve been in Düsseldorf since Friday evening, but not for Beyond Tellerand. I was in Leeds at the beginning of May, but not for All Day Hey. Being in the same city as a conference, yet not in attendance, is a running theme.... (https://paulrobertlloyd.com/2024/135/a1/conferences/)
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Loqi [mastodon.social/@pcarrier] Looking for an incremental journey to the #indieweb, embracing #smallweb & delaying the domain name purchase barrier:... (https://mastodon.social/@pcarrier/112444246698509962)
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Loqi [mammut.gogreenit.net/@chewie] Don't forget, it's the weekly Homebrew Website Club #London / #Europe meet up again tonight: https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-HJs8USwnq2Ie ... (https://mammut.gogreenit.net/@chewie/112444888018837396)
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Loqi [ioc.exchange/@ApisNecros] New blog post in my People series sharing one of my favorite memories of one of my best friends ever, who is sadly no longer with us. https://www.vzqk50.com/blog/people/my-dear-friend-tyler/ #IndieWeb #SmallWeb #PersonalSites (https://ioc.exchange/@ApisNecros/112446112384347146)
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Loqi [dmv.community/@jcrabapple] Google Gemini and Unsustainable LLMs https://cool-as-heck.blog/post/google-gemini-and-unsustainable-llms #indieweb (https://dmv.community/@jcrabapple/112446350100367572)
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Loqi [paulrobertlloyd.com] As mentioned in my last post, I was in Düsseldorf last weekend for IndieWebCamp. Organisation was haphazard and last minute meaning attendance was low, but it was a good opportunity to meet and catch-up with other members of the community.... (https://paulrobertlloyd.com/2024/136/a1/indieweb_principles/)
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Loqi [shellsharks.social/@shellsharks] Hey! I’m reviving my long-dormant #podcast, “The Shellsharks Podcast”. Exciting right?! In addition to the usual topics, i.e. "Infosec, Technology & Life", I'd like to spotlight awesome people from the #infosec community here on the #fediverse and discuss #indieweb and... (https://shellsharks.social/@shellsharks/112446624615970425)
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll] ^ how was Organization "haphazard"? The dates were known and announced long in advance. As soon as we got a venue for Saturday, that was well documented, certainly not "last minute", and by what criteria are you concluding that attendance was "low"? Did you compare IWC DUS 2024 day 1 & day 2 numbers of attendees to previous IWC DUS events (since we restarted events, since comparing to pre-pandemic events is not helpful in
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[tantek] any way)
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[tantek] The only thing that was "last minute": was announcing a specific venue for Create Day. We did announce in advance that we had a lobbycon backup, so folks knew there would be "something", so I would dispute "haphazard" in that regard as well.
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] Perhaps there’s a better word I could use, but that was my feeling. Not a criticism, more of an observation. Am comparing to camps in Nuremberg and Brighton, perhaps helped by those having a single venue and 20+ attendees. It’s the last minute venue choice, and things like not having a session grid with post-its etc. that gave the impression of event being a bit adhoc. It all came together, and maybe that’s all that matters.
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aaronpk no post-its?? 😱
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aaronpk sounds like someone didn't read the organizing doc 😉
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Loqi [social.ayco.io/@ayo] feat: respect user faces... (https://social.ayco.io/@ayo/112446758230894794)
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll] comparing numbers across cities like that, especially since 2020, ignores city-specific contexts and is unhelpful. Like I said, if you want to compare numbers, compare across different camps in the same city before making a claim like "low". Different cities have different levels of community, which is more reflective of the history of those communities than any one camp
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[tantek] again, day 1 was not a last minute venue choice
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[tantek] yeah not having a session grid with post-its was suboptimal, but all in all reflected more of an "early barcamp" vibe.
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[tantek] also tbh as a volunteer co-organizer it sucks to see your *months of work* labeled "haphazard and last minute"
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[tantek] I don't know how GWG, or Joschi, or Marc feel about that characterization, but you'd have to ask them
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[tantek] it's obviously not going to make me stop from organizing them in the future, however, I'd say a single blog post and even sentence like that could be enough to discourage a co-organizer from bothering with volunteering to help co-organize in the future, and frankly, rallying co-organizers to step up & volunteer is one of the hardest challenges we have to overcome to make IndieWebCamps
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Loqi [mastodon.social/@benjaminparry] Joining the gang at Homebrew Website Club Europe/London... (https://mastodon.social/@benjaminparry/112446888991423371)
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Loqi [xoxo.zone/@artlung] #IndieWeb Event this weekend: Bonus Online Homebrew Website Club - Social Norms in the IndieWeb https://artlung.com/blog/2024/05/15/bo-hwc-social-norms-in-the-indieweb-upcoming-event/ (https://xoxo.zone/@artlung/112446876227317435)
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Loqi [hachyderm.io/@reillypascal] I was just at the Homebrew Website Club Europe meetup, and I learned that webmentions were a lot easier than I had been thinking. I was able to use webmention.io to set them up, and if I understand right, they should be working on my blog posts! ... (https://hachyderm.io/@reillypascal/112446965798604288)
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