#stream 2025-12-10

2025-12-10 UTC
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Loqi [@HisVirusness] A really good buddy of mine passed away recently. I've been at a loss for words, but... I tried anyway.... (https://mastodon.social/@HisVirusness/115693529890335901)
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Loqi [@artlung] San Diego #IndieWeb Camp 2025 is Dec. 13-14—this weekend! #LosAngeles, #OrangeCounty, #Riverside folks were freeway/train close! Friday morning: photo walk; Afternoon: beer garden hangout. Camp will be Saturday and Sunday 10 to 6. Spread the word! ... (https://xoxo.zone/@artlung/115693798368448907)
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Loqi [@vhbelvadi] A quick mid-week reminder to everyone with a website of their own that there’s an #IndieWebCarnival going on this month, so if you’re looking for ideas to write about, look no further.... (https://indieweb.social/@vhbelvadi/115693885062183972)
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Loqi [@alan] 🌅 Lighthouse Lore — Morning Dispatch (08:30)... (https://lighthouse.co.im/@alan/115694331581833101)
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Loqi [@m3tti] Yesterday i found this https://openwebindex.eu/ i guess that could be a cool startingpoint for a websearch #indieweb #websearch #web (https://functional.cafe/@m3tti/115694501721675381)
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Loqi [@alan] After Storm Bran tore across the coast... (https://lighthouse.co.im/@alan/115694672805599201)
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Loqi [@hamatti] What is IndieWeb and who is it for?... (https://mastodon.world/@hamatti/115694884270813875)
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Loqi [@khleedril] Some thing which always makes me cringe is being pushed nouns with a detached initial letter, especially 'd', 'k', 'e' and 'i'. It always seems to refer to something half-arsed which someone is trying to push by riding a trendy train.... (https://cyberplace.social/@khleedril/115695325520098807)
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Loqi [@bbbhltz] little post for the December #indieweb carnival Where do I see the IndieWeb in 2030? https://bobbyhiltz.com/posts/2025/12/indieweb-2030/ (https://framapiaf.org/@bbbhltz/115695469030871105)
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Loqi [@ChrisHardie] Great read from @ben, "Why RSS matters" https://werd.io/why-rss-matters/ #rss #openweb #indieweb (https://mastodon.social/@ChrisHardie/115695961782742950)
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[tantek] kinda have to disagree with you there [benatwork]. we know from experience that RSS, due to violating DRY, is often neglected and breaks quickly. no matter how much evangelism there is to sites to support it, there's nearly zero follow-up so it ends up rotting. RSS is not a longterm or sustainable plan or advocacy. also, this article could have been written maybe 15 or 20 years ago but now it reads like RSS nostalgia instead. we have a
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[tantek] known (so to speak) timeline of newer, easier (to publish and consume), more reliable standards (Atom being the obvious one, JSONfeed being the latest)
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[tantek] I think my overall reaction is that RSS has evolved (into Atom, h-feed, ActivityStreams, JSON feed) and the article doesn't acknowledge that nor even mention any of those, and that's a missed opportunity to stand apart from all the other RSS nostalgia posts out there.
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[benatwork] The thing that's been remarkable about this in my current job is how important it is to maintain our feeds in order to support paid partnerships. The Lexis Nexis and Bloomberg terminal integrations I call out are real things that are worth real revenue. So, yes, it violates DRY for sure, and it's often left on the vine, but for publishers, a lot of money is often riding on it working well.
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[benatwork] (And those integrations don't offer other ways of going about that.)
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aaronpk So it's effectively a legacy integration API at this point 😎
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[tantek] sure, and pretty sure the SEC still supports proprietary XML (maybe SGML actually) exports for the same reason
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[tantek] [benatwork] if you want to make a point about legacy compat, then make a point about legacy compat. That's not what that article is.
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[tantek] And yes a paid partnership actually funds maintenance of what is an additional marginal cost, whereas the vast majority of use-cases of RSS bear no such marginal revenue benefits and thus are a tax on websites.
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Loqi [@brunopulis] Finally I published my new website using Eleventy and I'm so proud to be a part of a small web #indieweb #buildinginpublic #11ty (https://mastodon.social/@brunopulis/115696465194548075)
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Loqi [@retrostrange] RetroStrange is independent and community-supported. We don’t spy on you, we don’t sell your data, and we don’t shove ads in the middle of your movie. Our streams are run on open source software and commodity hardware that we pay for each month.... (https://mastodon.social/@retrostrange/115697260388883392)
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Loqi [@inlinestyle] 📂 docs.inlinestyle.it just upgraded to OpenCloud 4.0.0! The new version brings better performance, a refreshed UI, and smoother Collabora integration for editing docs and spreadsheets. Try it out → https://www.inlinestyle.it #OpenCloud #FOSS #IndieWeb #DeGoogle #BuyEU (https://mastodon.social/@inlinestyle/115697398901862111)
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Loqi [@flamed] 📝 New Post: Lewis Capaldi Live At The Spark Arena Another Tuesday night gig, what am I doing to myself? 🔥 https://flamedfury.com/posts/lewis-capaldi-live-at-the-spark-arena/ #Indieweb #Music #Livegigs (https://social.lol/@flamed/115697670758181456)