#stream 2026-10-20

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Loqi [@TheMoonZine] 👋 Welcome our newest writer, lizzymouse1222600! Their avatar emoji is 🇪🇨. View profile: https://moon-zine.net/profile/lizzymouse1222600 #writingcommunity #indieweb #avatar (https://mastodon.social/@TheMoonZine/117470292054310445)
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Loqi [@matapacos_uwu] added a cute lil "recent commits" panel to my home page! ^-^ i'm using nextjs, so at build time my home page has a `getStaticProps` function that pulls the five most recent git commits and formats them into JSON, which are then provided to the component.... (https://kolektiva.social/@matapacos_uwu/117470546237707009)
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Loqi [@riverpunk] It's been discussed at length the extent to which Big Tech search engines/indexers are basically garbage at this point. Even using a wrapper like Duckduckgo, which re-arranges the results from a Google + Bing search, the usefulness of these tools is really in decline compared to... (https://defcon.social/@riverpunk/117472517726728017)
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Loqi My episode on the Web Weaving podcast... (https://alexsirac.com/my-episode-on-the-web-weaving-podcast/)
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Loqi [@andros] «Tildes: the shared Unix computers» This is not nostalgia for the 90s; it exists today, and it is called a tilde. https://en.andros.dev/blog/03418ab0/tildes-the-shared-unix-computers/ #Linux #Terminal #IndieWeb #SmallWeb #Tildeverse (https://activity.andros.dev/@andros/statuses/01M5CKBSJG8B3BNE0WJJGD2FZA)
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Loqi i added a gallery mode for my bird photos, so you can just look at the photos, plus filtering by genus and family! https://shuppy.org/posts/tagged/birds.html?gallery check out cockatoos, honeyeaters, or starlings :3 #birds #birdphotography #photography #indieweb (https://fedi.shuppy.org/objects/bb9fbc94-84ac-4b34-b7f4-c61abd1a04a5)
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Loqi [@brennan] The Better Web / The Human Web / The Living Web https://brennan.day/the-better-web-the-human-web-the-living-web/ #indieweb #smallweb #genai #ai #ethics #community (https://social.lol/@brennan/117473929903537623)
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[capjamesg] aaronpk ^
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[jeremycherfas] The absolutism and purity-signalling offend me, but I honestly cannot be bothered to respond.
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Loqi [@artlung] "I would like for this to not splinter the positive ecosystem indieweb principles have facilitated." I care about tools for human thriving and making common cause with others. https://artlung.com/blog/2026/10/19/be-indieweb-enough/ #IndieWeb (https://xoxo.zone/@artlung/117474223982684174)
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aaronpk yeah i'm done with the conversation
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[tantek] [jeremycherfas]++ agreed 100%
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Loqi [jeremycherfas] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (22 in all channels)
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[tantek] wow apparently I'm guilty by association? WTF? that seems a bit uncalled for 😕
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[artlung] not how I read it
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Loqi [@timapple] Thing I learned building a link checker for static blogs: a lot of sites block requests coming from GitHub's runners, so a naive checker flags perfectly fine pages as dead. Linkguard marks those as blocked instead, and for links that really are gone it looks up a Wayback copy you... (https://fosstodon.org/@timapple/117474249933810637)
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Loqi [@neongod] I never really liked #IndieWeb (with capital I and W), as it always felt riddled with single points of failure. I’m not happy though that my assessment was correct. ... (https://mstdn.social/@neongod/117474253156388529)
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[tantek] yep here come the social media "I told you soes" 🫠
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[artlung] that's how the internet works. feature, not bug. steeling oneself for criticism is part of it.
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[tantek] hah fair enough, such behavior does predate social media (perhaps even the web), I remember it on mailing lists, netnews
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aaronpk i guess i expected this at some point
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[tantek] I'm with [jeremycherfas] though, the purity-signaling is part of default conservative / status quoist framing and I'm not a fan of that
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[tantek] aaronpk, I hoped for better tbh
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Loqi [@lzon] I've just updated my /now page! To check it out, see https://lzon.ca/now. #IndieWeb #PersonalWeb #Blog #Blogging #Now (https://mastodon.social/@lzon/117474287777663208)
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aaronpk i don't like this either: "This is a false dichotomy. Parecki could have put in the difficult work of updating the codebases himself by hand, and rallied others interested in preserving and maintaining these services."
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aaronpk i'm telling you literally i would have shut them down, I don't have time or interest in updating the code by hand.
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[artlung] aaronpk++ yes. add to that we continue to conflate every usage of "AI" with each other. the book stealing, six-finger hand AI is the same as autocomplete AI is the same as a local LLM and an expensive data-center polluting LLM.
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Loqi aaronpk has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (113 in all channels)
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[artlung] Distinguishing concise usage of LLM tooling to write and improve code and ops with cavalier slop vibe coding is a real problem for how we talk about and reason about these things.
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offeringofpie All those virtue-signaling posts as well, are not very constructive either
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[artlung] Not even to mention that the political dimension looms huge as we talk about them.
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[artlung] If I say "I don't want more pollution from data centers" is that virtue signaling? I think it's useful not to label things like this. People express their opinions. I don't see a lot of fake signalling in this. I see people scared about current and future harms and writing about it.
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[artlung] Let people disagree, and leave out the part where you make them an enemy for expressing their POV. People can be wrong, and it's not your job to correct them.
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aaronpk the virtue-signaling is the absolutism of it
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[jeremycherfas] [aaronpk]++
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Loqi [aaronpk] has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (114 in all channels)
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offeringofpie That's fair, just read a few small takes that didn't feel written in good faith. Hence the not being constructive.
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[tantek] aaronpk++ totally agreed
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Loqi aaronpk has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (115 in all channels)
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[tantek] it's easy to sit on the sidelines and take potshots at people who actually build & ship
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aaronpk maybe a middle ground is that i just delete all my apps from github in the meantime
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[tantek] 😢
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[tantek] ignore trolling and trolls aaronpk. once the discourse shows signs of bad faith (or clickbait / repost bait) then it's time to disengage and ignore
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[social] Reading this as I’m finishing honing a piece about a common frame for understanding software / web / systems development team building from the 90s that was a basic management leadership understanding. I started writing it in 2015 as some organizations I was working with were unfamiliar with it. I set it aside I’ve found it is really missing in most organizations in the last 5+ years. A couple years ago I started writing it
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[social] but the questions I got when mentoring principal engineers and heads of product was including how does GenAI coding fit.
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[social] I wanted to write the matrix to get it out and have the GenAI separate. But, at this point (and also writing this for use by an organization training underserved communities and organizations, non-profits, and governments technology and digital product with building. I’ve come close to fully shelving the whole thing over deep willful intent to misunderstand. But, I have a history of just posting things along these lines and
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[social] working to get this out now.
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[aciccarello] Lol, apparently tantek is responsible for everything Firefox does now
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aaronpk ☝️
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aaronpk If you take that argument to the extreme everyone is guilty by association for everything that happens in the world
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[Morgan_M] Its rare that a directly impactful, practical worker at such a level as @ T offers their energies so directly to a group or public facing community, so I have a good chunk of respect for that! unfortunately it does seem to attract flak thats not totally fair too. At any rate, adds to the discourse and understanding
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[Morgan_M] Ive come to like the new rounder and gradient effect featured Firefox styling , FWIW
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[Morgan_M] That Matt Bors comic about the "lets improve things somewhat" and getting flak comes to mind a lot these days
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[social] I finally got a chance to read [artlung]’s post. Nicely done!
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[Morgan_M] [artlung] I read more of your posts above, and I find it to be very concise and accurate. I could digress a big wall of words, this topic has impacted my work life and other life a lot
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[Morgan_M] To be specific, about the LLM thing, and the need to be clear about differences of what it is or used since its so caught up with policy and public life now
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[Morgan_M] Only in recent months have I fully recovered from how my workplace changed with their introduction
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gRegor Hmm, maybe time to finally write the post about one of my pet peeves, unironic usage of "virtue signalling"
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[social] Hah
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[social] That is a good pet peeve. I’m cursed with pet peeve for people using “utilize”.
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[Morgan_M] Not quite adjacent but the workplace usage of "call out" was one that really irked me often, when just pointing out facts or observing things mainly
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gRegor I'll try to to include "utilize" in the post ;)
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gRegor *not to, d'oh
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[social] of terms and acronyms / initialisms.
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[social] I may have an affinity for corp-lingo. Every organization has their own set of 50 favorites (some are used in the opposite way from other organizations). But, different use of technical terms between developers and engineers, but also engineers in organizations are tribal and have different terms and definitions. Often a first question from me is where is the lexicon? Don’t have one, where is a wiki where I can start a lexicon
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[Morgan_M] I find some clarity from considering WCAG 3.1.3 regarding this topic, as almost all my workplace interactions for a decade have been remote, and heavy on writing
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[Morgan_M] I agree that the lingo often is useful for team building and cohesion at times, not all bad
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[Morgan_M] maybe to an observer bad, sometimes thats almost intentional
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[Morgan_M] https://guideline-journey.com/?num=3.1.3
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[social] It is an “is thing” not good not bad, just is. The wild part is few recognize their terminology is different. I ended up as a comm theory major because the anthropology of it all.
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[Morgan_M] At work I often put in entries to the glossary type stuff in wikis, and definitely the documenting it part was a thing I liked doing