#wordpress 2017-07-14
2017-07-14 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] Howdy GWG!
# [chrisaldrich] I recently registered IndieWebPress.com and have been contemplating what to do with it.
# [chrisaldrich] I'm thinking a friendlier site for Gen2+ people interested in WordPress for indieweb
# [chrisaldrich] instructions, walk throughs, etc.
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# [chrisaldrich] and a repository for videos/talks
# [chrisaldrich] I've been putting some material together for WordCamp presentations, though I don't think I'll be able to make it for WordCampLA in late summer.
# [chrisaldrich] I've been debating putting together a custom pre-configured WordPress install like that too... would need to build some config for the initial set up.
# [chrisaldrich] Then people could download, install, (maybe upgrade portions), and then go.
# [chrisaldrich] I've used some preconfigured set ups like this with Drupal in the past, but haven't seen anyone doing this in WP.
# [chrisaldrich] https://www.drupal.org/project/openscholar is an example of a bundled Drupal core with the half dozen or so additional plugins that academics, researchers, or university related people might spin up and just go
# [chrisaldrich] prevented the need to download and install bunches of additional plugins, though they did still need some configuration work to put in the user's particular data
# [chrisaldrich] I had a few conversations with one of the senior WP execs at VIP last month and need to follow up.
# [chrisaldrich] I also need to see how cleverdevil 's team was going/not going on a one click install with Dreamhost...
# [chrisaldrich] GWG, have you seen/heard of WP distribution packages?
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[cleverdevil] delurks in Maui
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Loqi [cleverdevil]: tantek left you a message 2 weeks, 4 days ago: see recently posted http://aaroncommand.com/2017/06/25/a-stream-of-consciousness-review-of-the-indie-webs-onboarding-experience-from-a-ux-standpoint/ a bunch of GREAT suggestions for improving WordPress IndieWeb onboarding (including with Bridgy etc.) LOTS of ideas for small & big hack projects there, quick improvments, longer term things.
# [cleverdevil] Haven't started the Micro.blog-integrated one-click work yet.
# [cleverdevil] Should still happen, but not a massive priority at the moment.
# [cleverdevil] Sorry for my absence, I'm really enjoying my vacation ?
# [chrisaldrich] cleverdevil What about one-click indieweb wordpress? That's probably more valuable.
# [chrisaldrich] Go back to vacationing would'ya... (Though for me, IW is vacation...)
# [cleverdevil] My idea is that they'll be very much the same thing.
# [chrisaldrich] I suppose one is a superset of the other....
# [cleverdevil] A properly integrated Micro.blog WordPress install should be a fairly good IndieWeb citizen.
# [cleverdevil] Not sure we will go as far as enabling everything, such as Post Kinds.
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# [chrisaldrich] Have to jet to run a quick errand... back in a few hours... Let me know if anyone has brilliant thoughts about a stand alone package and/or IndieWebPress use cases.
# [chrisaldrich] I like that idea miklb
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[miklb] that was basically my original plan, then I learned about the limits of what can go in theme repo, so I paused the whole thing. Now that I’ve learned there are still ways for a user to install w/out using SFTP or be in repo, but keep up-to-date via admin updates, I’ve started turning the barge back to that direction.
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# [chrisaldrich] GWG++ that sounds awesome!
# [chrisaldrich] I always thought that petermolnar's exif data on photos was pretty cool https://petermolnar.net/category/photo/ location too is cool.
# [chrisaldrich] catches up on logs and sees the petermolnar reference in the #indieweb channel ?
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petermolnar I've been invoked :D I recently got rid of the exif location on my site for the images, but I'm considering putting it back; it's an end result of seeing a location in china 1,5 years apart, without garbage and with garbage and it got me thinking
# petermolnar what is exiftool?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "exiftool" yet. Would you like to create it?
# petermolnar exiftool is THE most comprehensive image EXIF (and other metadata) extraction utility. It's written in Perl and works as a regular, *nix command line tool. See http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
# petermolnar I'm not maintaining this and there is a little gardening that should be done, but here's a plugin to extract additional exif: https://github.com/petermolnar/wp-extraexif
# petermolnar it relies on exiftool
# petermolnar my current version is in Python, also using exiftool, here: https://github.com/petermolnar/nasg/blob/master/nasg.py#L492 - the wp-extraexif should be rewritten to use the same way, but I never bothered doing so
# petermolnar actually... that plugin needs a lot of gardening, not just a little :(
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[pfefferle] good morning
# petermolnar ok, I've reworked that plugin; https://github.com/petermolnar/wp-extraexif
# petermolnar php 5.2 friendly, populates the existing image meta, has a graceful fallback if something goes wrong, and a filter to specify what to be read
# petermolnar eh, need to update the description file
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# petermolnar yo
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# petermolnar I saw the discussion, decided to be good guy Peter :P :D
# petermolnar because nothing, including exiv2, can read lens information or location properly
# petermolnar I've looked around for pure-python solution a few months ago, and it's miserable
# petermolnar just stick to exiftool
# petermolnar the libexiv2 based ones a promising, but they lack so much
# petermolnar and the exif lib in PHP is... laughable at best
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# [chrisaldrich] tantek++
# [chrisaldrich] I think that particular person likely found the plugin and likes the concept, but was probably otherwise unaware of Indieweb.org.
# [chrisaldrich] I've got to figure out some reasonable video screen capture stuff to make a video (set of videos) to do a walk through for people.
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# [chrisaldrich] sorry, i'm here
# [chrisaldrich] what's up GWG?
# [chrisaldrich] wonders why I'm not getting notifications?
# [chrisaldrich] after the craziness of webmentions I got recent with the facebook mom post having something that collapses likes and mentions into facepiles somewhat like Indiependent Publisher would be cool.
# [chrisaldrich] finding the actual conversation amidst all the cruft can be difficult.
# [chrisaldrich] I meant to ask you if there was an svg for a glasses-type emoji instead of the book or bookmark-esque emoji that post kinds is using for read posts. (That's a tiny thing though...)
# [chrisaldrich] I know there were a bunch of people interested in OwnYourSwarm, but I think you already had that on your list.
# [chrisaldrich] I've been enjoying using /PressForward as a built in WP RSS reader. It would be awesome if it had UI and set up for configurable action urls for easily liking, replying, etc.
# [chrisaldrich] Bonus points obviously if integrated with post kinds!
# [chrisaldrich] I've been seeing some errors in the fetch on post kinds lately, I need to spend some time delving into what I'm seeing and post some feedback/examples on those.
# [chrisaldrich] Thinking back a few weeks, it might be interesting to resurrect the old WP Links (blogroll) piece (in core) to update it with functionality that's more modern thinking for following people or keeping lists for sharing with others.
# [chrisaldrich] If my JS skills were better, I'd love to build a bookmarklet to interface with that for quickly adding people to my "blogroll".
# [chrisaldrich] GWG: are events on your roadmap between RSVPs and venues within Simple Location?
# [chrisaldrich] I don't know how to push it into core, but it would be cool if the old links/blogroll functionality had h-cards mark up in addition to the rel-me stuff it already has.
# [chrisaldrich] Though that could potentially cause issues with how legacy themes handle those h-cards...
# [chrisaldrich] colinwalker had a post about post-meta https://colinwalker.blog/2017/07/14/explaining-the-test/
# [chrisaldrich] it would be nice if this were fixable in core, though I suspect, as usual that it falls to individual themes.
# [chrisaldrich] has kraft seen/heard about this issue and given any thoughts?
# [chrisaldrich] GWG: On the converse, do you have anything that you wish had better documentation?
# [chrisaldrich] I've got a list I've been making this past week to get ready to begin triiaging for a half-yearly documentation update.
# [chrisaldrich] I've made some tweaks to the WP pages this past week, but I think we're ready to have some very specific gen2+ simplified documentation.
# [chrisaldrich] And some screencasts/audio with a full walkthrough of all the pieces is something else sitting at the top of my list.
# [chrisaldrich] steps away for a bit; I'll be back in 30 or so...
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