#wordpress 2017-09-15

2017-09-15 UTC
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GWG
[miklb]: How did you come across that?
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[miklb]
John James Jacoby tweeted the link I think
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GWG
[miklb]: What do you think?
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[miklb]
I only looked at that page, but I like from what I can tell that it can do a bulk install. not sure I had seen that before
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[miklb]
Need to look at it closer though. Was skimming things in between other stuff, so stuck it here being lazy
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GWG
I wonder if they would accept feedback
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[miklb]
I don’t see a link to a public repo for the installer helper plugin
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GWG
I found it by searching
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GWG
But what else should be in the Indieweb plugin?
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[miklb]
I need to loop back to that conversation. Summer vacations broke down the discussion, but worth re-opening. I’ve been preoccupied with trying to get my 2 satellite blogs done so I can focus on my main site and the ideas I have for it.
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[miklb]
Irma had other ideas however.
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[miklb]
yeah, that’s what the indieweb plugin used to use (TGM)
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GWG
It didn't fit our needs.
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GWG
The current installer is fine for the immediate future, but I still want to find a wizard library
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Ruxton
the problem with TGM is people tend not to rename the class, everyone uses the same initialisation class and BEWM, you have a page of theme suggetsions and indieweb suggestions
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Ruxton
instead of them being separated
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GWG
Ruxton: What is on your list?
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Ruxton
Some themes and plugins I've used in the past use TGM and they all show up together
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GWG
Ruxton: I meant, for enhancing the Indieweb plugin...specifically the Installer part and the Identity part.
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Ruxton
oh, I'm using ZenPress theme with Bridgy, Hum, Micropub, Post Kinds, Semantic-Linkbacks, Web Actions, Web Mention, WebMenton for Comments
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GWG
I know. I have some thoughts on some of those.
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GWG
Are you using the rel-me/Identity functionality of the Indieweb plugin?
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Ruxton
nah I have widgets that output a link category for all my rel-me stuff
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Ruxton
but apparently I do use them still ;)
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GWG
I have to enhance that feature for people who don't want to use it.
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GWG
But I'm working on it because I broke my implementation. Figured might as well fix it for all.
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Ruxton
I cant really understand a reason for not using almost all of those plugins together, using 1 or 2 doesn't fulfill the experience, but the installer presents it like it's kind of possible to just use pieces. Arguably using only pieces of the experience is damaging to the end goal
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Ruxton
but quite possibly the largest blocker to anyone picking all this up, is a theme with support for everything that looks good and works
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Ruxton
that's why I've been working on ZenPress integration stuff so much lately
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GWG
Ruxton: Did you look at the code built into Semantic Linkbacks?
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GWG
That is in dev?
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Ruxton
yep, I'm running it on my site atm
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GWG
pfefferle wanted some changes on that before it went stable I'll have to get to
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Ruxton
cool, what were the changes just out of interest?
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GWG
Well, from the context, he seemed to want something like what I did in Post Kinds...a templating system
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doubleloop
What would be the best way to POSSE notes to Mastodon from Wordpress (such that is also works via micropub)?
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doubleloop
I'm not that bothered about backfeed.
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jeremycherfas
Hey GWG what's the story for displaying facepiles for content-free webmentions to WP?
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GWG
Working on it, just really behind
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jeremycherfas
Is the code on your site usable, or waiting to be merged?
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Zegnat
From the -dev channel, an article on how to set-up webmention with WP: https://depone.net/2017/09/15/webmention-reaktionen-sichtbar-machen/
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sknebel
at the bottom, the author of that article has 4 issues:
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sknebel
1) the authors are wrongly linked (linking to the posts/bridgy-proxy-pages)
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sknebel
2) comments have no tree structure
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sknebel
3) wants profile images to be stored locally
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sknebel
4) callback for the manual webmention form isn't nice
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sknebel
I think 1) is because they don't have an equivalent of https://gist.github.com/miklb/4ba5ea34dc7ad8031afea9414d477bce#file-comments-php-L47 in their template (which they based on miklbs)
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sknebel
but they also have native comments, so I'm not sure how they'd mix
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aaronpk
To clarify, since it was confusing to me, those are issues the author has with the current state of the webmention plugin and would like solutions to those problems
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[miklb]
oh, no, what did I do?
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GWG
The code in the Semantic Linkbacks repo works now
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GWG
Sorry, that was for Jeremy
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sknebel
[miklb]: you provided someone with a template they could copy stuff from, all good I think :)
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GWG
The profile image issue is on our list for Semantic Linkbacks also.
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GWG
The question is how
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GWG
WordPress core really should support local avatars
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GWG
It's a years old ticket
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[miklb]
fighting against gravatar is a losing battle
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GWG
miklb, not suggesting it
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[miklb]
sorry, being snarky this morning after the techcrunch article all but claims WordPress === Automattic
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GWG
But it shouldn't be the only option to depend on a third-party
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GWG
It has been in long enough I am not proposing gravatar leave core
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