#wordpress 2017-11-07

2017-11-07 UTC
tantek, [kevinmarks], [miklb] and brokaw joined the channel
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GWG Hello, [miklb]
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[miklb] good evening
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[miklb] apologies, I haven’t switched over my live site so nothing to report back.
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GWG [miklb]: I took a break and added some icons
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[miklb] I saw the commit messages
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GWG [miklb]: It was annoying me
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[miklb] But that would mean figuring out how to get my syndicate-to target to fire, which require… lol
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[miklb] speaking of, I want to figure out how to get my GitHub stars that come in as micropub likes to have a different message than a regular like.
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GWG How do Github stars come in as likes?
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[miklb] right now I’m hacking it by using shpub to grab the url from my browser & send a like of that repo
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[miklb] and instead of using syndication target I’m using to ping silo.pub to like the same URL which triggers the star on GitHub
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[miklb] `curl` to ping
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[miklb] what I need to do I guess is write a plugin that does the silo.pub ping for my syndicate-to target.
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GWG I still want to add code to support that to the micropub plugin
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[miklb] I kinda figured if I hacked into a custom plugin it would allow me to figure out how to do it more generally and contribute to that feature
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GWG After I finish the Post Kinds adjustment, I might try to tackle a PR for this.
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[miklb] then I shall in turn get on testing the new branch.
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GWG I need to read and think about it
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[miklb] I’ve been doing a lot of that lately
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[xavierroy] has anyone set up a workflow to use Post Kinds? maybe using Zapier or IFTTT?
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[xavierroy] Letterboxd doesn't have a public API right now. So I'm trying to PESOS by pulling in movie watches from Letterboxd to WP using Zapier. I can set it up for any of the standard Post Format types. But I cannot figure out how to set it up for the Post Kinds.
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[miklb] there was some code somewhere that would map a post format to a kind. I think I cribbed it from GWG and his mf2_s theme?
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[miklb] kinds are taxonomies, is there an option for custom taxonomies by chance in the Zap?
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[xavierroy] I don't think so. But https://zapier.com/help/wordpress/ should help me figure out something
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[pfefferle] good morning
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Loqi good morning
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petermolnar I'm looking at the coming changes in WP 4.9 ( http://www.wpbeginner.com/news/whats-coming-in-wordpress-4-9-features-and-screenshots/ ) - so many things getting into Core which should stay in plugins
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GWG petermolnar, other than a year old patch of mine, nothing for me either
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GWG pfefferle, noticed that I forgot to bump the stable version
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petermolnar I mean timed theme changes into core? why?
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petermolnar is there truly that much need for it?
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petermolnar another set of gallery while media display filters are still ignored on the backend?
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Zegnat I am guessing corporate clients can have seasonal styling or (more importantly?) integrated full page ad campaigns that run for specific times. And because those are probably corporate clients of WP.com ...
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GWG I am worried, like many, about Gutenberg.
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petermolnar Zegnat in that case, there's Jetpack for that
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petermolnar not Core
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petermolnar Gutenberg is what's replacing tinymce, right?
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petermolnar why the worry?
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petermolnar (not that I like the idea, just curios)
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GWG petermolnar, if only it was just that.
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petermolnar I wasn't paying much attention
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GWG Let's just say that if they put it in as the new Post UI, then I might create my own
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GWG I still might for likes and such.
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jeremycherfas Well, while I've got some real experts here, any obvious reasons why a WP site would suddenly start giving 404s on all the stylesheets and many other things loaded by js?
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GWG Not dpecg
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GWG Not specifically
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jeremycherfas Dpecg?
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GWG Sorry, typing on my phone
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GWG That's why I retyped
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jeremycherfas Ah. Sorry. Couldn't see the resemblance. :)
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jeremycherfas Recently moved servers, so will wait for DreamHost chat line to wake up and enquire there.
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jeremycherfas Thanks.
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GWG But if WordPress is going to move to become more for business type sites and less for personal, it is still flexible enough for me to enhance with plugins
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GWG Press This leaving core is indicative of a move away from personal blogging.
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petermolnar press this is forced out?
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GWG Yes, to a Canonical plugin
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GWG kraftbj is leading the new plugin, which is promising
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GWG He's an Indieweb sympathizer
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petermolnar ok, don't get me wrong: this is a good thing
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petermolnar core is too restricted to achieve anything
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petermolnar BUT
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petermolnar all those shiny new things, like Gutenberg, should also be plugins
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petermolnar core should slowly become more or less the API and the interfaces only
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petermolnar imo
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petermolnar and this is really not that I see
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GWG petermolnar, that would be confusing for laypeople
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GWG It isn't about Press This, it is for me about what the Core team thinks is important
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GWG No movement on custom comment types for example
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GWG Which suggests no one cares about interaction
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GWG Removal of a blogging tool.
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GWG Not one I used, but...
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GWG I can understand the idea of previewing themes and theme drafts though
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GWG If you want to work on the theme settings before taking it live
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petermolnar that made sense
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petermolnar I never attacked that part
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petermolnar although I'm not convinced that should be core either
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petermolnar but yeah, fine
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petermolnar oh, wow, I'm reading on Gutenberg reviews, is it actually breaking page builder plugins?
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GWG If you have a test WordPress site, try it?
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petermolnar I'm about to in the evening
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petermolnar jesus f*, this thing is horrible o.O
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petermolnar and yes, it breaks everything
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[miklb] IMVHO a lot of the driving changes to core are for customizer because WP.com is competing against Squarespace and the like.
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petermolnar those shouldn't be competing imo, but I know too well the God of Growth
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petermolnar same problem flickr competing with instagram
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petermolnar completely different people, but yes, there is a ceiling for growth if you have a certain audience
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petermolnar broadening the audience always results in losing focus
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petermolnar (sorry for the meta)
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GWG Hello, [miklb]
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[miklb] good evening. I’m just about to start working the site.
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GWG [miklb]: Working it?
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[miklb] oh, sorry. Update my custom view templates and push to my live site