2017-11-28 UTC
# 00:00 [miklb] ah, OK. Wasn’t sure if it was serving the zip from GitHub or WP repo # 00:01 wagle well, it doesnt fully install.. rebooot has you upgrade again # 00:03 [miklb] I’ve been seeing that but haven’t been able to track it down # 00:06 wagle I dont know what I'm doing, really.. how can I help tack it down? # 00:07 GWG wagle: I've been seeing that error in my logs as well. # 00:07 GWG It is a rest controller error. Which means it could be from any plugin using the REST controller system. # 00:08 GWG However, none of the Indieweb ones use items. # 00:08 GWG The Syndication Links upgrade is not related to that though # 00:09 GWG wagle: How are the plugins working for you? # 00:09 wagle the flag to upgrade went away.. dunno if I can do anything now # 00:11 wagle GWG: dunno yet, working on other things besides public content.. sorta building the foundation now.. thought I'd do indieweb in the background # 00:12 wagle .. working on my personal wiki, and its relationship to bookmark tags # 00:13 wagle it keeps track of things to do, but not what order to do them in # 00:13 GWG Owning my bookmarks has been on my list for too long # 00:14 GWG wagle: I have this idea to finally add in a Press This like interface to Post Kinds to make bookmark posting a 1-3 click process. [chrisaldrich] joined the channel
# 00:31 wagle GWG: my current plan is to make the personal wiki THE bookmarking system... annotations, cross-referencing, etc.. does that mesh with what you are doing? # 00:32 GWG wagle: I want my site to be the bookmarking system, as opposed to a wiki. I'm not up to annotations or cross-referencing at the moment. I may be in future. # 00:35 wagle what would your site do that the defau;t bookmark systems dont do? # 00:37 GWG wagle: Which default bookmark systems? # 00:38 GWG Instead of having them in an outside system. # 00:42 GWG wagle: This is for mostly public sharing of what I'm reading or planning to look through. # 00:45 wagle ok.. I'm thinking more of a pipeline: personal-wiki -> blog -> talk/paper [eddie] and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
# 01:09 wagle the sooner i get this (and a bunch of other things) done, the sooner I get my head above water # 01:10 GWG I've been busy in my non-Indieweb life as well # 01:10 GWG This week was the most productive I'd been in a month drkokandy, [miklb] and j12t joined the channel
# 01:49 GWG j12t: I have a PR in to add some additional lines to the Getting Started page of the Indieweb plugin. I was wondering if you might have some thoughts on new text for that page until such a future time as someone might build a guided installer. # 01:50 GWG j12t: If you have a site with the plugin enabled, it is under Indieweb->Getting Started # 01:50 GWG Otherwise, I could give you a Github page, but you wouldn't see the full effect # 01:51 GWG [miklb]: Re the idea of doing a Press This like bookmarklet for Post Kinds, do you think I need the whole 'popup' part or just a straight send in? # 01:52 [miklb] hmm. I never really used the Press This, but I do like to preview other stuff I use bookmarklets for (Pinboard) before sending to the site. # 01:53 j12t GWG: I currently run Indieweb plugin 3.3.1 in my test install. Are you saying that the "additional lines" are in the update to 3.3.2, or where? # 01:53 GWG [miklb]: I am tempted to just go for either straight send in or redirect to the Post UI first. # 01:53 GWG j12t: I would like you to give me your impression before the additional lines go in. # 01:54 j12t GWG: ok, so where do I find those additional lines? # 01:54 GWG These are the proposed changes here. # 01:54 GWG Although [miklb] has pointed out that the Press This plugin is currently broken due WordPress 4.9 removing Press This. # 01:55 GWG Which I will be re-removing to get the other changes in. # 01:56 [miklb] GWG would it go straight to the Post UI and populate the post properties of that URL? If so, I could see that being snazzy. # 02:01 j12t GWG: off the top of my head: have you considered moving text (some/most/..) from the plugin to indieweb.org? # 02:01 j12t That could be hyperlinked more easily ... and keep the plugin slim # 02:04 GWG [miklb]: Option #1 is that, which is already partially possible. Option #2 is for it to go to a simplified UI # 02:04 GWG j12t: There was an equivalent page for that, yes. # 02:05 GWG But some people find the wiki overwhelming # 02:05 GWG Also, the page started as the same as the one in the plugin, and quickly grew into this. # 02:05 [miklb] my suggestion, go with what is already partially possible now and get it working, then if you feel inclined to simplify the UI, you’ll have some user feedback to work off of. # 02:06 tantek GWG, really glad you and j12t are talking as you both very passionately want to make this better # 02:06 GWG I'm trying to find the solutions that can be implemented most quickly/easily and plan the bigger ones. # 02:06 tantek miklb++ and [miklb] already said what I would have said :) # 02:06 Loqi miklb has 5 karma in this channel (55 overall) # 02:06 GWG I'd love a guided installation, but that is a much bigger thing now. The immediate goal is to have better instructions. [eddie] joined the channel
# 02:09 GWG [miklb]: That's been in there for ages. I want to build on that. # 02:18 GWG [miklb]: That was my earlier attempt to get URLs from my phone, where I do most of my article reading, into the Post UI # 02:19 GWG So, the next step is to add another query param to that that would automatically retrieve the data. # 02:20 GWG Then add another option that would bypass the Post UI entirely and post the thing # 02:20 GWG Then, likely after that, add some sort of intermediate 'confirm' screen to preview what will be posted first. # 02:30 [miklb] auto-retrieval for micropub would be on my wishlist. # 02:30 GWG [miklb]: It would be part of the same update # 02:30 GWG If I do that, I might jump straight past 2.8 to 3.0 # 02:32 GWG j12t: So, you'd suggest we reduce the text on that page and link instead? I still think something should be there. # 02:35 [miklb] just a thought, but could link to a copy of what’s in the Indieweb.org wiki for WordPress on a wiki page of the plugin repo to minimize the potential to be overwhelmed. At least its a cleaner layout for reading docs IMO. # 02:36 GWG Well, I was thinking it could be the '5 second installation' with links. # 02:37 [miklb] I definitely agree a short concise set of docs and links to deeper content would be better # 02:39 GWG [miklb]: If I redid the PR in that vein, would you review it? [jackysee] joined the channel
# 03:04 GWG [jackysee]: Been enjoying your contributions. # 03:18 GWG [miklb]: Can you review the PR again? Rewrote the Getting Started page # 03:19 GWG I think it is much more friendly. # 03:31 [miklb] I made some notes, but I didn’t see anything I would disagree with. # 03:32 [miklb] oh man, did I make the comments on the .pot files and not the main text. Sorry # 03:34 GWG What do you mean by 'Remote too'? # 03:35 [miklb] typo I’ve fixed. remove “too” Twitter and Facebook. not too # 03:35 [miklb] I mean, I fixed my typo. not removing the extra “too” # 03:38 GWG I'm looking at the Readme stuff. I didn't edit that # 03:43 [miklb] the docs can always be improved. I’ll approve the PR and you’ll remove the Press This before you you merge? # 03:44 GWG [miklb]: I already did before the next commit. Have a look at the changes. # 03:44 [miklb] ah, I see. Was reading the initial PR comment and saw Press This and stopped. ? # 03:46 GWG I will add the black and white for a future version # 03:57 GWG We went back and forth a bit there. # 03:57 j12t "concise set of docs and link to deeper content"... # 03:58 GWG j12t: That is what I just committed. [tantek], [cleverdevil], [snarfed], [jackysee], [jeremycherfas], tantek, [kevinmarks], jeremycherfas, rMdes, [miklb], dougbeal|mb1, [manton] and [eddie] joined the channel
# 15:47 [jackysee] GWG u're welcome. just try to get my indieweb stuff working [snarfed], [jackysee], tantek, [keithjgrant] and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
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GWG [miklb]: Did you know that you can do this? http://example.org/wp-admin/post-new.php?kind=like&kindurl=http%3A%2F%2Findieweb.org
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