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# 00:04 wagle another update, another 15 minute timeout.. any guesses as to why? # 00:08 Loqi [Jessica Rose] Care and Feeding of Burnout # 00:08 wagle oh wait, deinstalling and installing "fixed" it last time? # 00:11 wagle uninstall -> reinstall didnt go south... this is the thing that does "post properties:? # 00:12 GWG wagle, yes, among other things, why? # 00:14 wagle I wonder what I cou;d have done to confuse things # 00:19 wagle .. or what does your plugin do during upgrade? [eddie] joined the channel
# 00:35 GWG I honestly don't do anything on upgrade in any of my stu # 00:37 [miklb] I just wonder if there’s something in the WP repo causing the timeout in the upgrade. [kevinmarks] joined the channel
# 00:53 [miklb] wagle, also, any php errors in your logs related to execution times out or out of memory errors? # 01:06 [miklb] a lot of moving parts in how that process goes down. I’d also be curious if updating one-by-one or doing update all. # 01:10 wagle fixed last time by reinstalling.. worked fineuntil upgrade again # 01:17 wagle at some point I'll get tired of it and read the "debugging your plugin" docs or something # 01:22 GWG I never tested anything against it # 01:23 wagle maybe I'll learn something by figuring out debugging # 01:29 wagle ooh.. i didnt look at the browser console.. sorry # 01:35 wagle damn kids! they dont timestamp their log messages! # 01:49 [miklb] hmm. I was expecting chrisaldrich article to be using the webmention-for-comments plugin based on the title. Need to read it closer now # 01:50 [miklb] oh, it does, just not listed in the plugins list. # 01:52 [miklb] I’ve been able to reply to webmentions from the comment form without having to manually add any mf2. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ # 01:53 GWG [miklb]: His theme isn't properly marked up dougbeal|mb1, [eddie], j12t_ and chrisaldrich joined the channel
# 05:15 chrisaldrich Since many who come to the article won't have webmentions/semantic linkbacks, I wanted to cover that eventuality (briefly), but put more focus on the comments plugin without getting into the weeds # 05:16 chrisaldrich miklb, GWG: so you're saying if I have better mark up, I can get comments without adding u-in-reply-to? # 05:17 GWG chrisaldrich: It should be built in. tracya joined the channel
# 06:23 tracya Hello, I recently found out about indieweb movement and attempted to modify my site. # 06:28 tracya struggling a bit. I had a disqus plugin and i'm also trying to move all my social media posts to a separate page. # 06:35 tracya 1) the comments on the blog posts. Is there a plugin to show the comments without all the default wordpress options? # 06:35 GWG Which options are you referring to? # 06:37 GWG But which WordPress options do you want to remove? # 06:37 tracya I'm just trying to make the comment section look "clean" like disqus # 06:38 tracya if not, it's no big deal - oh you do? Then I did it right.... yes # 06:39 GWG The form is optional, though I like to have it. # 06:39 tracya Ok it just's me being picky then. as long as it works. # 06:40 GWG I am just trying to figure out what you mean. I see your likes, which means you installed Semantic Linkbacks # 06:40 tracya Ok here's the big question - is there a way I can keep my blog posts on my main feed and direct all webmentions and posts to another "feed" or page on my website # 06:40 GWG They come from another site, so you got Bridgy installed # 06:41 tracya GWG, it's no big deal, I was just being particular on how the comment section looked. that's all. I appreciate you looking into it. # 06:42 GWG Webmentions are stored as a type of comment. But if you want different types of posts to be excluded on the home page, that is very doable # 06:42 tracya yes, I did the link backs and bridge. # 06:43 tracya yes, I don't want them on the main feed, I'd prefer to run them on a separate page/feed like a "social update page" # 06:45 tracya GWG, I'm very happy I found indieweb and I appreciate your patience. I enjoy working on my website but as you can tell, I'm not a developer # 06:45 GWG tracya, there is one thing I need to understand. The webmentions are attached to posts. Do you want to not show them on the posts they came in for? # 06:45 GWG I am happy to help. I am only an amateur developer. # 06:46 tracya Oh I think I misspoke. --- I'd like the webmentions "replies/like/reactions to my social media" to show on the posts they came in for. # 06:47 tracya does that make sense? # 06:49 tracya I thought so! I only saw one example page do this, but I couldn't figure out how. # 06:49 Loqi [Marios Alexandrou] Description
Ultimate Category Excluder, abbreviated as UCE, is a WordPress plugin that allows you to quickly and easily exclude categories from your front page, archives, feeds, and searches. Just select which categories you want to be excluded, an... # 06:49 tracya Keep in mind, I found out about indieweb a few hours ago, so not bad # 06:49 GWG I know someone who uses it to solve this problem # 06:50 tracya I think I have this installed... hmmm... # 06:50 GWG Add a social category and this would exclude it from feeds # 06:50 tracya yes, I did that. # 06:50 GWG tracya, I think you did very well in that regard. We get a lot of visitors who prove we definitely need better documentation # 06:52 tracya videos! or a screenshot process # 06:53 tracya that's how I get by... well you'll be able to point to me and say, "anyone can do this." hehe # 06:53 GWG tracya, we are always looking for people to help document, if you are interested. # 06:54 GWG But, I seriously thought about doing some videos. Not sure of how good my production would be. Also, things change every so often. # 06:55 GWG I did an unplanned video at Indiewebcamp Austin last week. # 06:56 tracya yes, that's true. videos are more timely. # 06:56 GWG It looks like it is reading your social sharing icons. # 06:57 tracya yes, I think I can help document, once I understand a little bit more. I'm currently already volunteering for a small web project, but plus keep me in mind. # 06:59 GWG tracya, you can always write on your own website. We keep a wiki at indieweb.org which can be edited and articles linked to. # 07:01 GWG And you can always drop us a line in here or through other means for help or to report an issue or feature request # 07:02 GWG Although the list of things filed on GitHub grows every day as we get new ideas # 07:03 tracya ok it kind of worked, the twitter post got a little crazy. # 07:04 GWG The plugin you are using for the icons is embedding them in the content. That's what you are seeing # 07:04 tracya yes, that's a great point. I can certainly share my journey. # 07:06 tracya ok I'll have to look into which plugin I'm using for that. # 07:06 GWG Assume you are using Bridgy Publish. There's an option to use the excerpt as the Twitter box. You can try that. # 07:07 GWG I hate that so many plugins embed in the content instead of outside it. # 07:08 tracya it's true, it can be redundant # 07:09 GWG On that note, it is 2am here. Heading out. I am always in here, and eventually respond. We also have others on at different times # 07:10 tracya yes, I'll have to check and thank you so much! I will look into documentation. chrisaldrich joined the channel
# 07:10 chrisaldrich I'm spending some time trying to update all the work that GWG has done in the last two weeks. # 07:10 Loqi gwg has 29 karma in this channel (290 overall) # 07:11 GWG chrisaldrich, my vacation ends tomorrow. I will try to slow down # 07:11 GWG Although I have some surprises in store. # 07:16 tracya chrisaldrich, thanks. I think I'm set for now. it's late over here too. Tomorrow I'll comeback and ask about url shortner and posting via mobile. # 07:17 tracya I have my own url shorter but it's on bitly. see you guys tomorrow! # 07:17 chrisaldrich tracya, I see you've got most of an h-card, but your icons look like they're doubling up. # 07:19 tracya I know... the icons look terrible. thanks goodnight! # 07:20 tracya GWG++ chrisaldrich++ # 07:20 Loqi gwg has 30 karma in this channel (291 overall) # 07:21 Loqi chrisaldrich has 2 karma in this channel (68 overall) raretrack, raretrack_, [tantek], [eddie], tantek and [miklb] joined the channel
# 16:46 [miklb] chrisaldrich yes, I am able to reply to a webmention from the comment form on the front end without any manual markup Zegnat joined the channel
# 16:59 raretrack just read chris's post - this is the holy grail of indieweb :) [chrisaldrich] joined the channel
# 17:19 [chrisaldrich] even more so if I can get the mark up right and not need to microformat manually # 17:24 [miklb] It really does feel like magic. I’d still like to figure out how to do it by replying to a Twitter reply backfed from Bridgy j12t, raretrack and [tantek] joined the channel
# 18:11 GWG [miklb]: Up for some review work? # 18:21 GWG [miklb]: I have more planned. I just wanted to fix a few minor things # 18:23 GWG Not sure where the setting is for that. # 18:24 [miklb] I wonder since you already requested review by pfefferle it’s stopping me from doing it? # 18:27 [miklb] looks like you added me to the review, so was able to complete # 18:31 GWG I think I can do a serious upgrade to Indi [kevinmarks] joined the channel
# 18:43 GWG My intention is to make it not Indieauth.com dependent # 18:43 [miklb] GWG pfefferle if there is any open issues/discussions about what is needed for better webmention support save adding them to core, can you point them out to me? Specifically 1st class comment_type stuff. # 18:45 [miklb] yes, are there open trac tickets you know of? I’d like to be versed in that as well when I bring it up Wednesday. # 18:45 GWG Go to my site and read my articles on it # 18:46 Loqi [David Shanske] IndiewebPress: Improving Comments # 18:47 [miklb] no rush, just if either of you have notes/trac tickets I can read through before then. I’m off to a local Code4America open hack. # 18:48 Loqi gwg has 31 karma in this channel (292 overall) raretrack, chrisaldrich and [snarfed] joined the channel
# 21:16 chrisaldrich GWG++ for auto-retreiving post data when using the Post Kinds "bookmarklet" URL scheme # 21:16 Loqi gwg has 32 karma in this channel (293 overall) # 21:16 GWG chrisaldrich: That worked for you? [bo] joined the channel
chrisaldrich Thus a prerequisites section before the main course.
tracya Hello, I recently found out about indieweb movement and attempted to modify my site.
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