#wordpress 2018-02-21

2018-02-21 UTC
Daiweico, tantek, [miklb], Kaja__, [markmhendrickso, [kevinmarks], dougbeal|mb1 and [eddie] joined the channel
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[miklb] GWG just tested post kinds master on my live site with a quote type. 👍
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GWG miklb, how was it?
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[miklb] worked as planned. No title is greatly appreciated.
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GWG I had to compromise and put it below the content box to make people happy
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[miklb] location wasn’t my concern, autofilling was. I do appreciate you changing that.
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[stefp] On trying Post Kinds 2.8.0 I’m getting this error on some posts…
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[stefp] Recoverable fatal error: Object of class WP_Post could not be converted to string in …/wp-content/plugins/indieweb-post-kinds/views/kind-photo.php on line 29
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tantek hey GWG which WP Plugin does POSSE?
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[miklb] I think there are a couple. The Bridgy plugin from GWG is one. Jetpack also does some syndication.
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GWG I will fix the development issue tonight
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GWG Hundreds of them
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GWG SNAP is popular
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tantek GWG, I mean, any that *we* maintain or even recommend
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[miklb] there are no community plugins for POSSE. The bridgy plugin is GWG’s, which is close. I do not think any of the other plugin devs with syndication plugins are active inside the IW community.
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GWG The Bridgy Plugin, but it is just a UI to Bridgy Publish
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GWG So, not a full POSSE plugin
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GWG I have thought about doing my own Twitter plugin. The API looks easy enough, but not motivated enough
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[miklb] not sure the difference between “full POSSE” and bridgy to be honest
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tantek [miklb]: here is a key stark difference: whose code calls the Twitter API. Your site (via a plugin), or Bridgy's server
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tantek and this is why that key difference matters: https://blog.twitter.com/developer/en_us/topics/tips/2018/automation-and-the-use-of-multiple-accounts.html
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tantek in particular this: "Do not (and do not allow your users to) simultaneously post identical or substantially similar content to multiple accounts."
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tantek so if you did that from your server, e.g. with a plugin that lets you POSSE to multiple Twitter accounts simultaneously, your server (and Twitter app IDs etc.) might get banned by Twitter
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[miklb] sure. That’s spam IMO
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[miklb] I would banned someone for doing the same thing.
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[miklb] s/banned/ban/
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tantek pretty sure some view it as "marketing"
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[miklb] I would love to have that discussion with those people
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tantek [miklb] I'm pretty sure both the Known POSSE ui and Quill have the ability to show and POSSE to multipe Twitter accounts
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tantek thus multiple #indieweb folks have found an itch (or market demand?) for multi-account POSSEing
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tantek I don't know their reasons
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[miklb] Micropub allows for multiple syndication targets, so in that case, it can be abused, but I’m not so sure that Quill itself allows for multiple Twitter accounts. I have no experience with Known.
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[miklb] I certainly would love to hear a rational argument for posting the exact same thing all at the same time to multiple Twitter accounts as “marketing”
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tantek discussing Quill now in #indieweb-dev
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tantek er, [#dev] :)
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GWG I think tantek got my meaning
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GWG miklb, how is the New design working for you otherwise?
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[miklb] It’s good. I personally didn’t have issue with the previous design. I dragged it just below the content box and hid some other metaboxes so it was conveniently located for me. But I’m a long time user of custom meta boxes in the WP admin, so it feels more natural to me that perhaps a new user or someone not familiar with custom post types/content metaboxes
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[miklb] my spare time has been spent trying to get my food blog up. I’m getting closer. Maybe I’ll shoot for next Monday, as that’s the anniversary of buying my domain
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GWG That was what I was going for
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GWG I am trying to decide what I need to accomplish before release