#wordpress 2018-07-27

2018-07-27 UTC
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GWG
I have a bunch of Micropub improvements I want to add
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donblanco
uh, how do I attach a screenshot here?
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Loqi
[Don Blanco (Mr. White)] WP>Masto Test just another test to see if I can auto-post to Mastodon from WordPress ... https://glenn.thedixons.net/wpmasto-test/
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[matpacker]
My authorization issues have been solved! The DreamPress guys were able to work out what was going on and have fixed it
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GWG
[matpacker]: What was it?
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[matpacker]
Basically, they have PHP-FPM enabled, instead of php fastCGI, and that was what was stripping the headers
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GWG
[matpacker]: I run php-fpm...they can pass the headers
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[matpacker]
So they disabled PHP-FPM on my server, and voila, it works
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GWG
[matpacker]: Is this in writing?
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[matpacker]
Yes, and a the guy helping me has filed a bug
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GWG
Would you be able to post their explanation of what the problem was and what they did somewhere?
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GWG
That might be of use to others
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[matpacker]
GWG: Just forwarded the email stream to you
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GWG
[matpacker]: This isn't something temporary.
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GWG
They need to pass the header
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GWG
It is needed each time the server accesses your site
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[matpacker]
That's what I would've thought, but again, this is way deeper than my knowledge base, so I'm not really sure what else to push them on.
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GWG
I wonder if I can track down Mika Epstein
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GWG
I don't think 2016 is ugly. Oh well.
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dougbeal
GWG: except when it bugs out - https://crw.moe/b/Tg looks bad in wide mode
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GWG
dougbeal: I was speaking in general.
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GWG
I admit that design isn't my strong point
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GWG
I'd love a really good designer to work on a theme
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dougbeal
True, maybe we should crowdfund one?
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GWG
I'd be happy to do the integration and mf2 work.
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dougbeal
Does wp have a guet ready theme?
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GWG
Not sure
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[chrisaldrich]
GWG: the conversation I made reference to was the one about the two bugs getting merged.
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GWG
[chrisaldrich]: Yes.
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[matpacker]
GWG: now that I have everything working, I'll spend some time re-styling the theme using TwentySixteen as the base.
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GWG
Great
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donblanco
well now - just managed to import my Goodreads csv using wp all import plugin - even got everything into the correct post kind.
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donblanco
But - will need to clean up the CSV then try again - also some of the taxonomy stuff may be in the database but I don't see it in the post interface
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[xavierroy]
@donblanco great.. do write about your process
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[xavierroy]
[matpacker] great to hear your issue was resolved.. mine still throws up an error
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GWG
Hello, [xavierroy]
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GWG
[xavierroy]: Dreamhost or other host?
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[xavierroy]
hello [dshanske]
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[xavierroy]
dreamhost shared hosting
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GWG
But not Dreampress?
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[xavierroy]
no. not Dreampress
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[matpacker]
[xavierroy] you'll need to contact them about turning off the PHP-FPM on your account, as you're on a shared server, this may not be possible.
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[xavierroy]
my php is set to 7.2 FastCGi
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GWG
I use PHP-FPM, by the way. But with Nginx
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[matpacker]
haha well that blows that theory out the window!
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[xavierroy]
looks like i have the '--enable-fpm' flag enabled
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[xavierroy]
[dshanske] how do i display the post kind icon?
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[xavierroy]
is there a function i can call?
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GWG
Not specifically
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GWG
There is a function to call to display it
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[xavierroy]
i'm trying to display the post kind icon in the 2016 theme
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[xavierroy]
to display the icon along with the text in the metadata section
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GWG
I have a little of that
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[pfefferle]
[dougbeal] what du you mean with guet? Gutenberg?
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dougbeal
pfefferle: yes, I attempted to abreviate it :)
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[pfefferle]
ZenPress is Gutenberg ready and supports wide mode
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aaronpk
I am suspicious of dreamhost support in this case. There is nothing about php-fpm that prevents the authorization header from working. I use that on my server just fine.
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aaronpk
There is probably some config option they have in their fpm that is not in the cgi one, but it concerns me that they weren’t able to know that.
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[matpacker]
aaronpk: I'm happy to keep trying to work through a solution/better answer with DreamHost/Press
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jgmac1106_
pfefferle++
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Loqi
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jgmac1106_
!tell gwg I was going to record a video on how you update 2016-IndieWeb when it is already installed…and realized I didn’t know best way. I usually switch themes, delete 2016-IndieWeb, reinstall and switch back, other option?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106_
Does anyone know why this happens with the gravatar and a link to bridgy and not back to my website: https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1022789703261724673 Testing Indpendent Publisher
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@jgmac1106
Working on #edu522 tutorials so excited to teach this class. You should join our three week blogging bootcamp. (https://www.brid.gy/publish/twitter) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjGt0JNUYAYKHkU.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/1022789703261724673)
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GWG
I use git
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Loqi
GWG: jgmac1106_ left you a message 14 minutes ago: I was going to record a video on how you update 2016-IndieWeb when it is already installed…and realized I didn’t know best way. I usually switch themes, delete 2016-IndieWeb, reinstall and switch back, other option?
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jgmac1106_
…….hmmmm and the best way for mortals
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jgmac1106_
of course the moment when I go to record bridgy to Twitter workflow it fails me on every account,
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GWG
I will look into it
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jgmac1106_
When I go to sign into brid.gy I get this: Upstream server request failed: (, DeadlineExceededError('Deadline exceeded while waiting for HTTP response from URL: https://indieweb.jgregorymcverry.com/',)) I am not even using that subdomain right now
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jgmac1106_
grrrrrrrr, maybe I am crazy to try this with students, I can’t even get a workflow going long enought to record tutorials on the workflow
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jgmac1106_
what is sempress?
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Loqi
SemPress is a highly semantic WordPress Theme with HTML5 templates, responsive and seo optimized https://indieweb.org/SemPress
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donblanco1
@jgmac1106_ the indieweb subdomain is in your Twitter profile (twice) - might be coming from there
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jgmac1106_
good call [donblanco1] let me delete that..though that was more for IndieAuth before Twitter stripped rel=me I just switched to record SemPress tutorials, we will see what happens
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jgmac1106_
I also occasionally trip some security warnings using some bitninja service my shared hosting provider must user
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donblanco
I've heard good things about sempress
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sknebel
jgmac1106_: re https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1022789703261724673 there's an u-photo on the avatar, but no h-card around it, so bridgy thinks its a photo for the post
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@jgmac1106
Working on #edu522 tutorials so excited to teach this class. You should join our three week blogging bootcamp. (https://www.brid.gy/publish/twitter) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjGt0JNUYAYKHkU.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/1022789703261724673)
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donblanco
which indieauth source are you using to authenticate?
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jgmac1106_
IndieLogin from my site
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jgmac1106_
thx [sknebel] I am trying to discover if that is just in Indpendent Publisher or just me and Independent Publisher, there was no photo in that post. It automatically sticks in avatar with a u-photo
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jgmac1106_
!tell pfefferle I see this issue https://github.com/pfefferle/SemPress/issues/48 about post-kinds. Should we not use the post-kind plugin with SemPress
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[dshanske] #48 Support Syndication Links and Post Kinds
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jgmac1106_
[donblanco1] I have to, especially from the accessibility folks in the community. If I am using my blog for teaching I am legally required to make it accessible
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jgmac1106_
[gwg] is there still any issues using Post-Kinds and SemPress, should I recommend not installing that plug-in?
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sknebel
jgmac1106_: from a quick peek at the Independent Publisher source code it seems like that's a problem with Independent Publisher in general
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jgmac1106_
yeah, that is what I am thinking, I was doing the same, it seems there was an h-card at one point and when v.2 launched a bunch of IndieWeb stuff got removed
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jgmac1106_
it used to be two different branches one on WordPress and one on GitHub….but there are many issues and no development.
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jgmac1106_
I think I am going to remove it from my recommendation list
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sknebel
oh, you're not using the one from github/wordpress.org? cause Independent Publisher v2 is something different
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jgmac1106_
no, that is the one from GitHub, not on WordPress, according to the wiki only use GitHub for Indpendent Publisher
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jgmac1106_
but theme states comes with a built in h-card and I have never found one anywhere and the mf2 on each post….it ain’t pretty…but I wonder if that is post kinds. I should try using just status
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jgmac1106_
you don’t even get a permalink on posts: https://edu522.jgregorymcverry.com/stream/
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jgmac1106_
or publication dates or anything….think that is all she wrote for Indpendent Publisher
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sknebel
only reference to h-card I've seen is on our wiki, and it has author h-cards as described there
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jgmac1106_
ohh okay so an hcard on the post but still need to add to homepage
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jgmac1106_
and it seems it turns the title into the permalink so when you do note type there is no linl
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sknebel
yeah, that's pretty useless
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sknebel
ah, ok, the "Comment" links at least link to the post
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jgmac1106_
yeah I had to do that and remove the anchorlink to get the url
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jgmac1106_
has a bunch of options in customization, I think I can get it
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jgmac1106_
okay, good to know, need to make a video of that
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jgmac1106_
this changes between the status post type and the note post kind: itemprop="mainContentOfPage"
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jgmac1106_
the h-card gets in their twice as well…still trying to figure out u-photo in syndication
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donblanco
just out of curiosity, what is this 'independent publisher' you're talking about? Plugin? Theme?
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sknebel
What is Independent Publisher?
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Loqi
Independent Publisher is an open source responsive and modern WordPress theme that is Indieweb friendly https://indieweb.org/Independent_Publisher
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jgmac1106_
[donblanco] I am trying to make video and text based tutorials for all the #IndieWeb themes
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sknebel
jgmac1106_: on the independent publusher demo page on the post lists the entire post is the permalink, so it works for notes too
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sknebel
is that an option you can set maybe?
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jgmac1106_
not that I can find but I will keep poking, thx for talking this through with me sven, so much easier to not think alone
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Loqi
[sknebel] #301 micoformats2: avatar leaks into post as "photo" property
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jgmac1106_
sknebel++
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Loqi
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jgmac1106_
[gwg] more critical for me is this, you have an issue open in both themes asking for post kind support, should I not recommend people use post kinds with either Independent Publisher or SemPress?
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GWG
IP got a PR for that, but no activity
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jgmac1106_
hasn’t been activity on IP since Nov 23, 2017, six months ain’t too bad on an open source project supported by one person
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jgmac1106_
but what happens if people do use them? will the mf2 be wrong? Should people using IP and SemPress just stick to the included Post Types?
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jgmac1106_
I did ask [pfefferle] but I thought you may know as well
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GWG
pfefferle would take my PR
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GWG
So I might do it as a service to the community
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jgmac1106_
so in an attempt to record a Bridgy tutorial, i made a new twitter account, a new domain, installed a blog and now I get: Bridgy Error: Error: {"errors":[{"code":324,"message":"Image dimensions must be >= 4x4 and <= 8192x8192"}]} HTTP Error 400: Bad Request
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jgmac1106_
No bridgy tutorials for me today,
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sknebel
as usual, if you'd share details/links one could take a look and try to help ;)
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sknebel
<img alt='css.php' src="https://sempress.jgregorymcverry.com/wp-content/plugins/cookies-for-comments/css.php?k=7f2082cabf524557e729f13a3507d899&amp;o=i&amp;t=2036212725" width='1' height='1' />
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sknebel
ok, 1x1 px gif to set a cookie, gets inserted into the post content and mf2 thinks it's the post photo
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jgmac1106_
my main website https://jgregorymcverry.com throws this error when trying to authorize twitter: Upstream server request failed: (, DeadlineExceededError('Deadline exceeded while waiting for HTTP response from URL: https://indieweb.jgregorymcverry.com/',))
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Loqi
Greg McVerry
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jgmac1106_
okay [donblanco1] was right I removed the other websites from my profile and back and business
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jgmac1106_
now just need to make my kids go to back to bed so I can finish tutorials
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sknebel
still might be worth filing with snarfed, an unrelated site shouldn't necessarily break your bridgy signup
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jgmac1106_
yeah I will ping him when West Coast wakes up
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sknebel
filing an issue is probably better than dumping it on him in chat
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jgmac1106_
and I will file an issue with [pfefferle] about the cookie being inserted
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sknebel
that looks like a plugin you have installed, not a theme issue
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jgmac1106_
[gwg] does the postkind plugin insert any cookies? I have added no plugins but IndieWeb plugins
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sknebel
it's clearly from a plugin called "cookies for comments". and it loads, so there is something answering and not just a left over link pointing to nowhere
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Loqi
[Donncha O Caoimh] Description This plugin adds a stylesheet or image to your blog’s html source code. When a browser loads that stylesheet or image a cookie is dropped. If that user then leaves a comment the cookie is checked. If it doesn’t exist the comment is m...
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jgmac1106_
I wonder if it is baked into the theme
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jgmac1106_
and there it is…must come with the theme
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jgmac1106_
what is sempress?
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Loqi
SemPress is a highly semantic WordPress Theme with HTML5 templates, responsive and seo optimized https://indieweb.org/SemPress
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Loqi
[jgmac1106] #60 Cookies for Comments leaving image that messes up mf2
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sknebel
I don't see how it's part of the theme
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sknebel
you sure that's not just installed by reclaimhosting by default?
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sknebel
at least I see sites online claiming that
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sknebel
jgmac1106_: ^^^
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[jgmac1106]
interesting I just figured it was a vanilla copy...hmm, will note and close issue
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jeremych-
Sknebel++ for Independent Publisher issue
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Loqi
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jgmac1106_
!tell [pfefferle] I have really enjoyed taking SemPress for a spin. If you see anything wrong in the videos ping me. Making short segments that can be remixed easily
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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MarcoZDe
Hi everyone!
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jeremych-
Hello.
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jgmac1106_
Hey [MarcoZDe]
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[miklb]
what’s this about crowd funding a theme?
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jgmac1106_
[miklb] micro.blog started with a kickstarter, whose to say a suite of themes couldn’t have similar results, people will pay for continuos updates and support
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jgmac1106_
or possbly routing through open collective
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donblanco
well so far all attempts to use Aperture with either Monocle or Indigenous have resulted in a big ball of hurt
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GWG
I have not moved to Microsub yet
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sknebel
I asked in -dev a few days ago, but does anyone here have a recommended "wordpress in a box" virtual machine, docker image, ...?
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dougbeal
sknebel: for a VPS, or locally?
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sknebel
locally, although I'm sure I can make something intended for a VPS work locally too
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dougbeal
sknebel: I ended up tying my VPS docker stuff to linux user namespaces to map docker image root to a specific user unprivileged host user.
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dougbeal
sknebel: I have started trying to get everything running locally, but it works for wordpress - https://github.com/dougbeal/wordpress-indieweb-docker.git
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sknebel
thx, will take a look
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[chrisaldrich]
[jgmac1106] the independent publisher theme on github and WordPress.ORG should be the same. It's the one from WordPress.COM that doesn't have the microformats you want.
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[chrisaldrich]
Though it mught be worth it to fork it to add GWGs PR if Raam Dev doesn't.
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aaronpk
is donblanco's issues still related to the wordpress plugin not being able to verify tokens?
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jgmac1106_
[chrisaldrich] I was thinking same thing and then can add the h-card natively without the plugin
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[chrisaldrich]
aaronpk I suspect so given the number of others who have the same issue on WP.
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[Vanessa]
[jgmac1106] Greg, don't know if it's of much use, but I documented my initial travels into Indieweb, which included some of the problems I had with SemPress. I didn't get as far as trying to syndicate back then & I still don't, especially as if I did it would likely be photos, which don't work properly/at all.
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[Vanessa]
Anyways, here's the post
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[chrisaldrich]
[Vanessa]++
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Loqi
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[jgmac1106]
awesome [Vanessa], for syndication you need to make the image a featured image regardless of theme
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[jgmac1106]
I have found
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[jgmac1106]
Here is an example in 2016-IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106]
I got syndication working but it was too late to record, now you would hear riki, diki, and dawn, and a bunch of lawn equipment, plus I wouldn't use my creepy everyone is sleeping so I whisper voice
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Loqi
@t brings up wikipedia as a counter example of how you don’t need a real name policy to fight bots and track reputation. Clicked on article, clicked on history, and clicked on author page. #CredWeb #QuestionTheWeb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User...
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[jgmac1106]
just read your post I love it
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[jgmac1106]
None of the themes handle images the way I wanted to I resorted to a page builder..and I title my photos cuz flickr says I can: http://jgregorymcverry.com/photos/
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[Vanessa]
Ah, ok, I'll make a note of that for the future. I was told it needed some u-photo thing that wasn't there, not that I ever got it to work. But I didn't try too hard as syndication isn't something that I really need. I still tend to do different things on different networks. Flickr only gets my very best photos!
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[Vanessa]
Thanks. I did a series of them as I went along, then that one at the end.
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jgmac1106_
are they all tagged a certain way for me to find them?
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[jgmac1106]
Not sure what you mean by this: SemPress theme I chose forces a title
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[jgmac1106]
will it literally not publish if you do not add title?
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[Vanessa]
I like your little icons! I did manage to set up a menu for things I'm reading.
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[Vanessa]
Tags! That would have been sensible. I never think to tag anything!
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[Vanessa]
This is the first and the others follow straight on, interrupted only with one other post.
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[jgmac1106]
<-- horrible tagger and was using exclude uncategorized for so long I need to go back in, luckily I mainly syndicate to Twitter so most carry a hashtag
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[jgmac1106]
For an image to be included in a tweet it needs to be the featured image except in photo posts, but I make it a featured image to display on /photos
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[jgmac1106]
I don't syndicate to Flickr either, its just many argue the photo post type doesn't get a title, hundreds of millions of photos on Flickr say otherwise
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jgmac1106_
okay figured out how to search for “adventures” [vanessa] huge help going to read all of this before I finish recording SemPress
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[Vanessa]
Ah no, it doesn't refuse to publish, it's happy for me to write & publish an untitled post. But in the admin panel it puts a number in as the post title, so the RSS feed comes up as the post number - so it rather undoes my decision not to title. Hence the bit of script to remove titles from status posts. If I used other types I'd probably have to do the same for them. At the moment, though, I don't.
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[Vanessa]
I have found the code that adds the post number (not that I understand it), so did wonder if there was a way to override it in my child theme - but that requires more skills than I have. It would be preferable, though, then I could configure what I want for various post types via my child rather than by just stripping one out for the rss feed. Of course the JSON feed just outputs the post number - another reason why it would be nice to
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[Vanessa]
This made it pretty frustrating for Micro.blog to start with.
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[Vanessa]
of the theme altogether.
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jgmac1106_
[gwg] came up with an interesting fix for that problem in 2016-IndieWeb I am sure he can pass along the fix
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jgmac1106_
especially with whatever search you have installed, it seems to only search your titles
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[chrisaldrich]
[jgmac1106] I think you'd seen one or two, but feel free to use these for your course if you like: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUkDy-CP92u1r54VkKzN0Pty5jtTQcr9H
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[chrisaldrich]
I need to get back to finishing them up
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[chrisaldrich]
they're shorter versions of the longer two hour one...
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jgmac1106_
thx [chrisaldrich] Need to add to top of my week zero yeah trying to stay under 3 minutes each clip so as UI changes I can quickly re-record
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jgmac1106_
I want to do a bunch of popup microcasting with folks so you are def on the list
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jgmac1106_
….ohh you laready split up your long one, even better
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[chrisaldrich]
Yeah, I'm trying to do a handful of ~10 minute ones for each plugin or major piece
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[chrisaldrich]
and then just organize them as a playlist
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jgmac1106_
doing same for each theme as they act slightly different, Independent Publisher is done, Doing SemPress now, if you cover 2016-IndieWeb we will have them all
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jgmac1106_
then it is just the minor plugins (which I define as not included in IndieWeb Plugin)
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[chrisaldrich]
[Vanessa] I made a gist that includes the html (with CSS at the bottom that can be dumped into your style.css file) for the menu and icons: https://gist.github.com/chrisaldrich/56a2967d8e2a98b5d4135bd280c47dff
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[chrisaldrich]
[jgmac1106] this reminds me that I think you didn't add the css portion to your site as your icons are all bunched together instead of spaced via flexbox if you're interested ^^
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jgmac1106_
Forgot kids have golf, if the credweb community group aint that popping I may quit early, my damn as neurotic neighbor needs to put his leaf blower away first
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jgmac1106_
will do, I have messed the css and code on some pages and not others, but will always update to flexbox
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[chrisaldrich]
if you borrowed the code with the classes directly you should be able to cut/paste the css part at the bottom into your style.css file in your theme or child theme and it should "just work"
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[jgmac1106]
yeah, I built some custom pages but totally gonna do it. I think @gwg is baking a menu widget into the next post-kinds release
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[chrisaldrich]
just edit out or add the kinds you use to get the subset you need
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[Vanessa]
[chrisaldrich] Thanks for that, looks fab- I have seen it on your site.
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[Vanessa]
Not entirely sure what to do with it, though. Where does the code at the top go? I'll have to look at my site setup - it's been a while since I looked at the nuts & bolts!
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[jgmac1106]
[Vanessa] dashboard>customize>additional css, put the css there
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[jgmac1106]
then you can either just use the plain text editor and put the html on any page, or use an html sidebar widget if you want it there
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[Vanessa]
Ah, see, I haven't done "putting html" anywhere before. Not quite sure I understand that. I'll ponder.
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[Vanessa]
I know how to add the css to my child theme via Filezilla though. Does using the dashboard mean it alters the main theme? I got caught out by an update wiping out a lot of work, hence the child.
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jgmac1106_
not at all, and if you want to push right to your child theme go ahead, adding css though is built right into WordPress editor now
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[jgmac1106]
[Vanessa] this is how you can add css without ftp...though h/t for updating your own stylesheet
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[Vanessa]
I'm probably more comfortable using ftp than some of the more "user-friendly" web things. I often don't find them intuitive - guess my brain works weirdly or something. I started out on the command line, remember, before any graphics stuff. I remember being amazed by XTree and then Norton Commander when they appeared! And as a family we used to share files over ftp years ago.
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jgmac1106_
i went a step further in the opposite direction and added a page builder to my site as I didn’t know enough php and WordPress, I can do the CSS, to make it look the way I want
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[Vanessa]
I know nothing about html, php or CSS. I did have a book on html4 somewhere, which I used to create a very basic site years ago.
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[Vanessa]
If it ain't Pascal or C, I'm lost - though probably have forgotten most of what I knew of those by now. I really do need to update my skills a little. 😇 It's a bit shoddy, considering I do actually have a diploma in software engineering. 'Twas the end of the last century, though.
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donblanco
@aaronpk I would guess token malforming, yes, if I remember correctly
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donblanco
so how can I block access to all wordpress comment spam without hindering webmentions, etc.?
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jgmac1106_
Askimet does it for me
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[miklb]
I use a blacklist
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donblanco
I don't want to have to manually do any spam marking - I don't want their comments to ever make it into my WordPress database. Will a blacklist do that?
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[miklb]
remove your comment form would be one step
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[miklb]
blacklist just sends it to the trash
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[chrisaldrich]
[Vanessa] The top section of code I have cut and pasted into the "page" that I use for my front page https://boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/flex-items-on-front-page.png
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[chrisaldrich]
The bottom section of CSS I cut and paste into the style.css file for my child them at https://example.com/wp-admin/theme-editor.php which looks like this: https://boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/CSS.png
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[chrisaldrich]
donblanco: The blacklist functionality for WordPress is at https://yourdomain.com/wp-admin/options-discussion.php#blacklist_keys
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donblanco
@chrisaldrich yeah, but they are still IN MY DATABASE! Makes me crazy lol
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[Vanessa]
[chrisaldrich] Thank you. Something I might well play with tomorrow. I have a quiet weekend for once, so hopefully I'll get time to have a go.
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[chrisaldrich]
[Vanessa] Let us know if you need additional help.
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donblanco
well now - finally imported GoodReads csv into WP using the free (old) really simple CSV importer plugin
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donblanco
key was to label each column using wp terminology (post_type, post_title) etc.
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donblanco
automatically created custom fields for each of the other GoodReads column headings (authorlf, isbn, etc.)
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donblanco
but now I need to go into PHPMyAdmin and change all the post kinds over to 'read' :(
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donblanco
hmmm - damn - can't find any way to bulk edit post kind :(