#wordpress 2018-07-27
2018-07-27 UTC
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donblanco_ created a note on WP https://glenn.thedixons.net/wpmasto-test/

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donblanco_ results in toot on Mastodon https://octodon.social/@donblanco/100443784046187685

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Loqi [Don Blanco (Mr. White)] WP>Masto Test
just another test to see if I can auto-post to Mastodon from WordPress ...
https://glenn.thedixons.net/wpmasto-test/

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[matpacker] My authorization issues have been solved! The DreamPress guys were able to work out what was going on and have fixed it
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[matpacker] Basically, they have PHP-FPM enabled, instead of php fastCGI, and that was what was stripping the headers
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[matpacker] So they disabled PHP-FPM on my server, and voila, it works
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[matpacker] Yes, and a the guy helping me has filed a bug
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[matpacker] GWG: Just forwarded the email stream to you
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[matpacker] That's what I would've thought, but again, this is way deeper than my knowledge base, so I'm not really sure what else to push them on.
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dougbeal GWG: except when it bugs out - https://crw.moe/b/Tg looks bad in wide mode

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[chrisaldrich] GWG: the conversation I made reference to was the one about the two bugs getting merged.

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[matpacker] GWG: now that I have everything working, I'll spend some time re-styling the theme using TwentySixteen as the base.
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[xavierroy] @donblanco great.. do write about your process
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[xavierroy] [matpacker] great to hear your issue was resolved.. mine still throws up an error
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[xavierroy] hello [dshanske]
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[xavierroy] dreamhost shared hosting
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[xavierroy] no. not Dreampress
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[matpacker] [xavierroy] you'll need to contact them about turning off the PHP-FPM on your account, as you're on a shared server, this may not be possible.
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[xavierroy] my php is set to 7.2 FastCGi
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[matpacker] haha well that blows that theory out the window!
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[xavierroy] looks like i have the '--enable-fpm' flag enabled
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[xavierroy] [dshanske] how do i display the post kind icon?
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[xavierroy] is there a function i can call?
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[xavierroy] i'm trying to display the post kind icon in the 2016 theme
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[xavierroy] to display the icon along with the text in the metadata section
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[xavierroy] probably something around https://github.com/dshanske/twentysixteen-indieweb/blob/master/inc/template-tags.php#L61
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[pfefferle] [dougbeal] what du you mean with guet? Gutenberg?

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[pfefferle] ZenPress is Gutenberg ready and supports wide mode

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[pfefferle] [dougbeal] https://indieweb.org/ZenPress

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[matpacker] aaronpk: I'm happy to keep trying to work through a solution/better answer with DreamHost/Press
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jgmac1106_ pfefferle++

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jgmac1106_ !tell gwg I was going to record a video on how you update 2016-IndieWeb when it is already installed…and realized I didn’t know best way. I usually switch themes, delete 2016-IndieWeb, reinstall and switch back, other option?

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jgmac1106_ Does anyone know why this happens with the gravatar and a link to bridgy and not back to my website: https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1022789703261724673 Testing Indpendent Publisher

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@jgmac1106 Working on #edu522 tutorials so excited to teach this class. You should join our three week blogging bootcamp. (https://www.brid.gy/publish/twitter) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjGt0JNUYAYKHkU.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1022789703261724673)
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jgmac1106_ …….hmmmm and the best way for mortals

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jgmac1106_ of course the moment when I go to record bridgy to Twitter workflow it fails me on every account,

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jgmac1106_ When I go to sign into brid.gy I get this: Upstream server request failed: (, DeadlineExceededError('Deadline exceeded while waiting for HTTP response from URL: https://indieweb.jgregorymcverry.com/',)) I am not even using that subdomain right now

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jgmac1106_ grrrrrrrr, maybe I am crazy to try this with students, I can’t even get a workflow going long enought to record tutorials on the workflow

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jgmac1106_ what is sempress?

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Loqi SemPress is a highly semantic WordPress Theme with HTML5 templates, responsive and seo optimized https://indieweb.org/SemPress

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donblanco1 @jgmac1106_ the indieweb subdomain is in your Twitter profile (twice) - might be coming from there
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jgmac1106_ good call [donblanco1] let me delete that..though that was more for IndieAuth before Twitter stripped rel=me I just switched to record SemPress tutorials, we will see what happens

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jgmac1106_ I also occasionally trip some security warnings using some bitninja service my shared hosting provider must user

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sknebel jgmac1106_: re https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1022789703261724673 there's an u-photo on the avatar, but no h-card around it, so bridgy thinks its a photo for the post
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@jgmac1106 Working on #edu522 tutorials so excited to teach this class. You should join our three week blogging bootcamp. (https://www.brid.gy/publish/twitter) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjGt0JNUYAYKHkU.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1022789703261724673)
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jgmac1106_ IndieLogin from my site

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jgmac1106_ thx [sknebel] I am trying to discover if that is just in Indpendent Publisher or just me and Independent Publisher, there was no photo in that post. It automatically sticks in avatar with a u-photo

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jgmac1106_ !tell pfefferle I see this issue https://github.com/pfefferle/SemPress/issues/48 about post-kinds. Should we not use the post-kind plugin with SemPress

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jgmac1106_ [donblanco1] I have to, especially from the accessibility folks in the community. If I am using my blog for teaching I am legally required to make it accessible

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jgmac1106_ [gwg] is there still any issues using Post-Kinds and SemPress, should I recommend not installing that plug-in?

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jgmac1106_ yeah, that is what I am thinking, I was doing the same, it seems there was an h-card at one point and when v.2 launched a bunch of IndieWeb stuff got removed

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jgmac1106_ it used to be two different branches one on WordPress and one on GitHub….but there are many issues and no development.

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jgmac1106_ I think I am going to remove it from my recommendation list

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jgmac1106_ no, that is the one from GitHub, not on WordPress, according to the wiki only use GitHub for Indpendent Publisher

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jgmac1106_ but theme states comes with a built in h-card and I have never found one anywhere and the mf2 on each post….it ain’t pretty…but I wonder if that is post kinds. I should try using just status

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jgmac1106_ you don’t even get a permalink on posts: https://edu522.jgregorymcverry.com/stream/

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jgmac1106_ or publication dates or anything….think that is all she wrote for Indpendent Publisher

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jgmac1106_ ohh okay so an hcard on the post but still need to add to homepage

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jgmac1106_ ths

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jgmac1106_ thx

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jgmac1106_ and it seems it turns the title into the permalink so when you do note type there is no linl

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jgmac1106_ link

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jgmac1106_ here is a status post type: https://edu522.jgregorymcverry.com/uncategorized/31/ versus the note post kind https://edu522.jgregorymcverry.com/uncategorized/28/

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Loqi [admin] A quick test of the status post type using the #IndieWeb Independent Publisher theme https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4b384615cd720bf8fa7ba8f8c1177649?s=100&d=https://edu522.jgregorymcverry.com/wp-content/plugins/semantic-linkbacks/img/mm.jpg&r=g

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jgmac1106_ yeah I had to do that and remove the anchorlink to get the url

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jgmac1106_ has a bunch of options in customization, I think I can get it

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jgmac1106_ okay, good to know, need to make a video of that

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jgmac1106_ this changes between the status post type and the note post kind: itemprop="mainContentOfPage"

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jgmac1106_ the h-card gets in their twice as well…still trying to figure out u-photo in syndication

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Loqi Independent Publisher is an open source responsive and modern WordPress theme that is Indieweb friendly https://indieweb.org/Independent_Publisher

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jgmac1106_ [donblanco] I am trying to make video and text based tutorials for all the #IndieWeb themes

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jgmac1106_ not that I can find but I will keep poking, thx for talking this through with me sven, so much easier to not think alone

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jgmac1106_ sknebel++

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jgmac1106_ [gwg] more critical for me is this, you have an issue open in both themes asking for post kind support, should I not recommend people use post kinds with either Independent Publisher or SemPress?

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jgmac1106_ hasn’t been activity on IP since Nov 23, 2017, six months ain’t too bad on an open source project supported by one person

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jgmac1106_ but what happens if people do use them? will the mf2 be wrong? Should people using IP and SemPress just stick to the included Post Types?

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jgmac1106_ I did ask [pfefferle] but I thought you may know as well

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jgmac1106_ so in an attempt to record a Bridgy tutorial, i made a new twitter account, a new domain, installed a blog and now I get: Bridgy Error: Error:

{"errors":[{"code":324,"message":"Image dimensions must be >= 4x4 and <= 8192x8192"}]}
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jgmac1106_ No bridgy tutorials for me today,

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jgmac1106_ ha ha

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jgmac1106_ my main website https://jgregorymcverry.com throws this error when trying to authorize twitter: Upstream server request failed: (, DeadlineExceededError('Deadline exceeded while waiting for HTTP response from URL: https://indieweb.jgregorymcverry.com/',))

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jgmac1106_ okay [donblanco1] was right I removed the other websites from my profile and back and business

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jgmac1106_ now just need to make my kids go to back to bed so I can finish tutorials

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jgmac1106_ yeah I will ping him when West Coast wakes up

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jgmac1106_ and I will file an issue with [pfefferle] about the cookie being inserted

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jgmac1106_ [gwg] does the postkind plugin insert any cookies? I have added no plugins but IndieWeb plugins

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jgmac1106_ I have never ever used this: https://wordpress.org/plugins/cookies-for-comments/

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jgmac1106_ I wonder if it is baked into the theme

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jgmac1106_ and there it is…must come with the theme

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jgmac1106_ what is sempress?

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Loqi SemPress is a highly semantic WordPress Theme with HTML5 templates, responsive and seo optimized https://indieweb.org/SemPress

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[jgmac1106] interesting I just figured it was a vanilla copy...hmm, will note and close issue

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jeremych- Sknebel++ for Independent Publisher issue
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jgmac1106_ !tell [pfefferle] I have really enjoyed taking SemPress for a spin. If you see anything wrong in the videos ping me. Making short segments that can be remixed easily

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jeremych- Hello.
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jgmac1106_ Hey [MarcoZDe]

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jgmac1106_ [miklb] micro.blog started with a kickstarter, whose to say a suite of themes couldn’t have similar results, people will pay for continuos updates and support

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jgmac1106_ or possbly routing through open collective

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dougbeal sknebel: I have started trying to get everything running locally, but it works for wordpress - https://github.com/dougbeal/wordpress-indieweb-docker.git

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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] the independent publisher theme on github and WordPress.ORG should be the same. It's the one from WordPress.COM that doesn't have the microformats you want.

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[chrisaldrich] Though it mught be worth it to fork it to add GWGs PR if Raam Dev doesn't.

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jgmac1106_ [chrisaldrich] I was thinking same thing and then can add the h-card natively without the plugin

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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk I suspect so given the number of others who have the same issue on WP.

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[Vanessa] [jgmac1106] Greg, don't know if it's of much use, but I documented my initial travels into Indieweb, which included some of the problems I had with SemPress. I didn't get as far as trying to syndicate back then & I still don't, especially as if I did it would likely be photos, which don't work properly/at all.
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[Vanessa] Anyways, here's the post
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[chrisaldrich] [Vanessa]++

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[jgmac1106] awesome [Vanessa], for syndication you need to make the image a featured image regardless of theme

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[jgmac1106] I have found

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[jgmac1106] Here is an example in 2016-IndieWeb

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[jgmac1106] I got syndication working but it was too late to record, now you would hear riki, diki, and dawn, and a bunch of lawn equipment, plus I wouldn't use my creepy everyone is sleeping so I whisper voice

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Loqi @t brings up wikipedia as a counter example of how you don’t need a real name policy to fight bots and track reputation. Clicked on article, clicked on history, and clicked on author page. #CredWeb #QuestionTheWeb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User...

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[jgmac1106] just read your post I love it

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[jgmac1106] None of the themes handle images the way I wanted to I resorted to a page builder..and I title my photos cuz flickr says I can: http://jgregorymcverry.com/photos/

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[Vanessa] Ah, ok, I'll make a note of that for the future. I was told it needed some u-photo thing that wasn't there, not that I ever got it to work. But I didn't try too hard as syndication isn't something that I really need. I still tend to do different things on different networks. Flickr only gets my very best photos!
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[Vanessa] Thanks. I did a series of them as I went along, then that one at the end.
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jgmac1106_ are they all tagged a certain way for me to find them?

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[jgmac1106] Not sure what you mean by this: SemPress theme I chose forces a title

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[jgmac1106] will it literally not publish if you do not add title?

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[Vanessa] I like your little icons! I did manage to set up a menu for things I'm reading.
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[Vanessa] Tags! That would have been sensible. I never think to tag anything!
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[Vanessa] This is the first and the others follow straight on, interrupted only with one other post.
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[jgmac1106] <-- horrible tagger and was using exclude uncategorized for so long I need to go back in, luckily I mainly syndicate to Twitter so most carry a hashtag

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[jgmac1106] For an image to be included in a tweet it needs to be the featured image except in photo posts, but I make it a featured image to display on /photos

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[jgmac1106] I don't syndicate to Flickr either, its just many argue the photo post type doesn't get a title, hundreds of millions of photos on Flickr say otherwise

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jgmac1106_ okay figured out how to search for “adventures” [vanessa] huge help going to read all of this before I finish recording SemPress

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[Vanessa] Ah no, it doesn't refuse to publish, it's happy for me to write & publish an untitled post. But in the admin panel it puts a number in as the post title, so the RSS feed comes up as the post number - so it rather undoes my decision not to title. Hence the bit of script to remove titles from status posts. If I used other types I'd probably have to do the same for them. At the moment, though, I don't.
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[Vanessa] I have found the code that adds the post number (not that I understand it), so did wonder if there was a way to override it in my child theme - but that requires more skills than I have. It would be preferable, though, then I could configure what I want for various post types via my child rather than by just stripping one out for the rss feed. Of course the JSON feed just outputs the post number - another reason why it would be nice to
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[Vanessa] This made it pretty frustrating for Micro.blog to start with.
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[Vanessa] of the theme altogether.
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jgmac1106_ [gwg] came up with an interesting fix for that problem in 2016-IndieWeb I am sure he can pass along the fix

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jgmac1106_ especially with whatever search you have installed, it seems to only search your titles

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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] I think you'd seen one or two, but feel free to use these for your course if you like: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUkDy-CP92u1r54VkKzN0Pty5jtTQcr9H

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[chrisaldrich] I need to get back to finishing them up

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[chrisaldrich] they're shorter versions of the longer two hour one...

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jgmac1106_ thx [chrisaldrich] Need to add to top of my week zero yeah trying to stay under 3 minutes each clip so as UI changes I can quickly re-record

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jgmac1106_ I want to do a bunch of popup microcasting with folks so you are def on the list

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jgmac1106_ ….ohh you laready split up your long one, even better

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[chrisaldrich] Yeah, I'm trying to do a handful of ~10 minute ones for each plugin or major piece

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[chrisaldrich] and then just organize them as a playlist

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jgmac1106_ doing same for each theme as they act slightly different, Independent Publisher is done, Doing SemPress now, if you cover 2016-IndieWeb we will have them all

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jgmac1106_ then it is just the minor plugins (which I define as not included in IndieWeb Plugin)

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[chrisaldrich] [Vanessa] I made a gist that includes the html (with CSS at the bottom that can be dumped into your style.css file) for the menu and icons: https://gist.github.com/chrisaldrich/56a2967d8e2a98b5d4135bd280c47dff

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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] this reminds me that I think you didn't add the css portion to your site as your icons are all bunched together instead of spaced via flexbox if you're interested ^^

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jgmac1106_ Forgot kids have golf, if the credweb community group aint that popping I may quit early, my damn as neurotic neighbor needs to put his leaf blower away first

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jgmac1106_ will do, I have messed the css and code on some pages and not others, but will always update to flexbox

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[chrisaldrich] if you borrowed the code with the classes directly you should be able to cut/paste the css part at the bottom into your style.css file in your theme or child theme and it should "just work"

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[jgmac1106] yeah, I built some custom pages but totally gonna do it. I think @gwg is baking a menu widget into the next post-kinds release

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[chrisaldrich] just edit out or add the kinds you use to get the subset you need

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[Vanessa] [chrisaldrich] Thanks for that, looks fab- I have seen it on your site.
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[Vanessa] Not entirely sure what to do with it, though. Where does the code at the top go? I'll have to look at my site setup - it's been a while since I looked at the nuts & bolts!
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[jgmac1106] [Vanessa] dashboard>customize>additional css, put the css there

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[jgmac1106] then you can either just use the plain text editor and put the html on any page, or use an html sidebar widget if you want it there

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[Vanessa] Ah, see, I haven't done "putting html" anywhere before. Not quite sure I understand that. I'll ponder.
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[Vanessa] I know how to add the css to my child theme via Filezilla though. Does using the dashboard mean it alters the main theme? I got caught out by an update wiping out a lot of work, hence the child.
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jgmac1106_ not at all, and if you want to push right to your child theme go ahead, adding css though is built right into WordPress editor now

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[jgmac1106] [Vanessa] this is how you can add css without ftp...though h/t for updating your own stylesheet

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[Vanessa] I'm probably more comfortable using ftp than some of the more "user-friendly" web things. I often don't find them intuitive - guess my brain works weirdly or something. I started out on the command line, remember, before any graphics stuff. I remember being amazed by XTree and then Norton Commander when they appeared! And as a family we used to share files over ftp years ago.
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jgmac1106_ i went a step further in the opposite direction and added a page builder to my site as I didn’t know enough php and WordPress, I can do the CSS, to make it look the way I want

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[Vanessa] I know nothing about html, php or CSS. I did have a book on html4 somewhere, which I used to create a very basic site years ago.
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[Vanessa] If it ain't Pascal or C, I'm lost - though probably have forgotten most of what I knew of those by now. I really do need to update my skills a little. 😇 It's a bit shoddy, considering I do actually have a diploma in software engineering. 'Twas the end of the last century, though.
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jgmac1106_ Askimet does it for me

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[chrisaldrich] [Vanessa] The top section of code I have cut and pasted into the "page" that I use for my front page https://boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/flex-items-on-front-page.png

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[chrisaldrich] The bottom section of CSS I cut and paste into the style.css file for my child them at https://example.com/wp-admin/theme-editor.php which looks like this: https://boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/CSS.png

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[chrisaldrich] donblanco: The blacklist functionality for WordPress is at https://yourdomain.com/wp-admin/options-discussion.php#blacklist_keys

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[Vanessa] [chrisaldrich] Thank you. Something I might well play with tomorrow. I have a quiet weekend for once, so hopefully I'll get time to have a go.
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[chrisaldrich] [Vanessa] Let us know if you need additional help.

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