#wordpress 2018-10-04
2018-10-04 UTC
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[jgmac1106] @gwg yeah if a face counter could work might be an interesting add-on for semantic linkbacks for the generic webmention page
# [jgmac1106] or something along those lines, I played with CSS animation with an outercircle as a well, full overlay, the CSS stuff is easy, I couldn't write the filter for the counter
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AkyRhO it was related to the authorization header
# AkyRhO seen in the apache error log :
# AkyRhO I switched to the other solution
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# AkyRhO then I was finally able to login \o/
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# [jgmac1106] AkyRhO that issue is theme specific to sempress I believe
# [jgmac1106] @gwg I remember you fixing this awhile ago
# [jgmac1106] AkyRhO is this your website here: https://cedric.io/2018/10/03/1487/
# [jgmac1106] pfefferle++
# [jgmac1106] for the IndieWeb events
# [jgmac1106] and for SemPress
# AkyRhO [jgmac1106]: it is
# AkyRhO should I change my theme to fix this issue?
# AkyRhO which one would you suggest?
# [jgmac1106] its a small tweak, I just can't remember what is. SemPress is well loved and used by many.
# [jgmac1106] why not this for you: https://indieweb.org/Ruby
# [jgmac1106] I am using the 2016-IndieWeb theme...but this is my latest post: http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/10/04/pulling-the-ripcord-on-wordpress-indieweb
# [jgmac1106] I like the 2016-theme, but I put a page builder on top to get the look I want for my students
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# [jgmac1106] yes I think an issue was filed, https://github.com/pfefferle/SemPress/issues/62 might be by design, at threshold of my skill answering these questions
# [jgmac1106] but WP themes supported by one person each and [pfefferle] theme loved by accessibility crowd. So not sure if title meant to be this way,
# [jgmac1106] here is an example @zegnat: https://sempress.jgregorymcverry.com/
# AkyRhO so i just switched to the mf2_s theme
# AkyRhO and it seems to work just fine https://twitter.com/akyrho/status/1047842127898718208
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@akyrho Just in case you want to jump into the #indieweb movement, i recommend going to irc://freenode.net/#indieweb-wordpress – The community is very kind and helpful towards newcomers (https://cedric.io/2018/10/04/1504/) (twitter.com/_/status/1047842127898718208)
# [jgmac1106] what do you mean mf2_s theme?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "mf2_s" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "mf2_s is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [jgmac1106] ....not maintained
# AkyRhO oh
# AkyRhO alright
# [jgmac1106] sandbox not really for general use
# [jgmac1106] one sec, i have been rewriting WP getting started page:
# AkyRhO well at least it confirmed it was a theme-based issue
# [jgmac1106] yes, thank you. Basicallly choices of themes are 2016-fork, only on GitHub, SemPress or ZenPress, which are in wp.org
# [jgmac1106] there is also independent publisher but it is not maintained and is missing critical parts
# [jgmac1106] but [pfefferle] released a new plugin calles mf2_stream which uses rel="alternative" to make more WP themes work out of box
# AkyRhO well, ZenPress it is then
# AkyRhO thanks
# [jgmac1106] it's kind of cheating but getting the correct microformats2 into WP themes is a sisyphean battle
# [jgmac1106] [johnjohnston] has done awesome tweaks to his
# [jgmac1106] the title fix is pretty easy if I recall
# [jgmac1106] you can try mf2_stream and you install all the other IndieWeb plugins (expect microforamts2 do not install that with any indieweb theme) and it should just work
# AkyRhO wait what?
# AkyRhO i'm not supposed to have microformats 2 installed?
# [jgmac1106] not if you are using an IndieWeb theme. that plug in is to shoehorn microformats into other themes
# AkyRhO oh
# AkyRhO well
# AkyRhO i really feel like a newbie those past few days
# [jgmac1106] Why I ask why not just try Sinatra or FrancisCMS?
# [jgmac1106] WordPress is the great equalizer you just get to not understand it at greater levels of complexity the more you use it
# AkyRhO No reason really
# AkyRhO I read a lot on the wiki
# AkyRhO found out there was a huge amount of documentation about wordpress
# [jgmac1106] I was debating going back and forth between RoR https://indiewebsandbox.jgregorymcverry.com and Known, but I went with Known bc I am applying for grants that will contribute back to Known core
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Zegnat [jgmac1106], I have gone ahead and updated that issue with a more full explanation of what is actually going on: https://github.com/pfefferle/SemPress/issues/62
# [jgmac1106] Zegnat++
# AkyRhO I wanted something quick to setup just to play around
# [jgmac1106] WP community kind of large, and it is how people will onboard, quickest is micro.blog, then Known, then WordPress, Drupal/Ruby, SSGs and build-a-CMS
# AkyRhO I wasn't really planning on falling in love with the principle
# [jgmac1106] that would be my spiral of skill, complexity, and also inverse in the size of the community
# [jgmac1106] we need help in the WP communioty [pfefferle] and @gwg each maintain the only two themes. We try to draw in more WP developers but the mf2 is so hard many give up
# [jgmac1106] leaves @gwg and [pfefferle] workign roudn the clock to support massive community
# [jgmac1106] choose one, many from WP channel: v
# [jgmac1106] or here: https://indiechat.search.cweiske.de/?q=microformats+wordpress+theme funny seeing [grantcodes] post on using a sidefile, so far folks ahving good experience with mf2_stream pluging
# [jgmac1106] well the hour I was supposed to work on my website was spent in chat, oh well, laundry is done have to go record videos for class
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[pfefferle] it does support notes, but only for the post-format “note”
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# [pfefferle] it were posted as article
# [pfefferle] and article has always a title in SemPress
# [jgmac1106] khurt Williams is using it
# [jgmac1106] said it fixed everything for him
# [pfefferle] photos also has titles
# [pfefferle] but changing it is not that complicated
# [jgmac1106] yeah I remember it being a minor change when @gwg did it
# [pfefferle] yes, because it is always used in the rss feed
# [pfefferle] so it breaks with micro.blog
# [jgmac1106] is it a post kind vesus selectign native status post type
# [jgmac1106] I know in my example I selected the note post-kind
# [pfefferle] if post-kinds always use article, then “yes”… if it maps it to the post-types then “no”
# [pfefferle] but as I said, I will remove it completely or at least add a setting to remove it, so it will always work with any of the used types
# [pfefferle] [jgmac1106] the mf2-feed plugin is not ready yet, because the post-kinds plugin haven’t stored proper mf2/jf2 data, so I stopped working on it
# [jgmac1106] post 77 was set as note post-kind
# [jgmac1106] okay I won't recommend it yet
# [pfefferle] there is a basic version https://wordpress.org/plugins/mf2-feed/
# [pfefferle] without post-kinds support
# [pfefferle] Semantic-Linkbacks already supports rel-alternate btw.
# [jgmac1106] so we know which post-kinds do not store the coirrect mf2? Can we get note, reply, article, quote, and bookmark, set?
# [jgmac1106] read, watch, listen, etc still experimental there is no correct mf2
# [jgmac1106] thx
# [pfefferle] it is not the core post data, but the extended informations like reply-context
# [jgmac1106] I know @gwg was asking about specific microformats post kind questions last few days
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# [pfefferle] but this was not the problem
# [pfefferle] perhaps GWG might want to take over the work on the plugin when/if he fixed the problem… pull request is open: https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-mf2-feed/pull/5
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# [jgmac1106] So [pfefferle] the best advice then if folks want their markup proper and like SemPress is to not use in conjunction with the post-kind plugins?
# [pfefferle] no, the plugin works fine with SemPress
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# [pfefferle] and the title stuff is a SemPress problem
# [pfefferle] that I have to fix
# [jgmac1106] Perfect I want to really start migrating the getting-started on WP content I wrote, and want to make sure it is correct
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# WA9ACE 👋
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