#wordpress 2018-12-13

2018-12-13 UTC
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[asuh]
GWG: for the Kind Embed of a Tweet, it appears to be grabbing the t.co version of a link. Is there a way to convert that over to the real URL?
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GWG
[asuh]: The embed is done by WordPress itself.
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GWG
I don't modify it.
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[asuh]
Darn, ok
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GWG
You can always turn off the embed
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[asuh]
I like the embed, it’s a nice magical way to get a Tweet in a blockquote. I just dislike the t.co URL since it’s essentially a tracker
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GWG
I'm sure we could figure out a way to fix that
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[asuh]
I hadn’t really paid attention to the oEmbed functionality added previously but briefly remember it being added now that I’m looking up what happens. It’s a neat feature
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GWG
[asuh]: I cover myself by also offering a non-embed version, but I figured people would want the embeds
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[asuh]
The t.co annoyance is obviously minor
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[asuh]
The non-embed version, is that the logic behind the checkbox saying “Embed Sites into your Response”?
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GWG
Yes.
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GWG
It switches to the same display it uses for non-oembed sites
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GWG
It's a dynamic setting
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GWG
So you can turn it on/off without permanent effect
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[asuh]
nice, I’ll play around with that to see what I think
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[asuh]
Oh interesting, since WordPress 5.0 wasn’t forced by my web host (or maybe that was Automattic actually behind that decision), I just got a notification that it’s now updated to 4.9.9. I’m glad no one is forcing me to upgrade yet but keeping the 4.9.x line updated and secure
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jeremycherfas
Yes, I just noticed a bunch of emails about 4.4.9 I hope this means I don’t even have to think about classic editor and can just move to classic press in due course.
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Ik90
Hi need help to learn WordPress from scratch any best tutorial please
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[jgmac1106]
@lk90 the best bet is to just install.... But yes we have step by step guides for each IndieWeb theme
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[jgmac1106]
Need to get more folks to. Upvote the microformats ticket with ClassicPress
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[jgmac1106]
It is slipping
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Ik90
I have installed WordPress but the thing is themes looks r different in mobile and desktop... So looking for tutorial, any guidance will be helpful
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[jgmac1106]
For IndieWeb use SemPress which is in the theme repo
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[jgmac1106]
You can use 2016-IndieWeb but you download from GitHub
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[jgmac1106]
I have same videos for the 2016 theme
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[jgmac1106]
@lk90 that should get you started
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Ik90
Thank's a lot jgmac1106, I'll start working on it
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[pfefferle]
[jgmac1106] will you delete the youtube videos after you moved them to archive.org or will you keep both?
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[jgmac1106]
Probably keep both for now. You can add to your readme
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[jgmac1106]
Have bigger fires to put out now
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[jgmac1106]
Realized I am. Missing the webmentions plugin, semantic Link back tutorial
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[jgmac1106]
Wonder if those were generic, not theme specific... I will record those today if they are missing and make a SemPress playlist
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[pfefferle]
a SemPress playlist would be awesome
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[jgmac1106]
That I can do. Time to wake the family and start the day, will do when they leave for school
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[jgmac1106]
I made them videos for 2016 @gwg and Independent Publisher (though we do not recommend that theme... Seems most popular of the four)
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[jgmac1106]
@lk90 working remote today. Just ping us and we can help
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GWG
jackjamieson, did I fix your issues?
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jackjamieson
Hi GWG, I wasn't able to check yesterday - just checking now
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GWG
I think I closed everything
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GWG
And put in the new config call
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jackjamieson
Excellent, i'll check and update Yarns today
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GWG
Feed => true replaced with return => feed
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GWG
Feed discovery should work if passed a feed url
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jackjamieson
Just tested feed discovery - works great!
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jackjamieson
I'll go through the remaining things and will let you know if I find anything else
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GWG
Glad it worked out
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GWG
I will be working on cleaning up bugs and issues in Simple Location, but will hop back for anything you find
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jgmac1106
@gwg @chrisaldrich…after watching my SemPress videos I need to pretty much redo the suite of them. If you could do a state of each plugin, or add that as a common segment be cool, what are all the new changes to widgets and plugins and such
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jackjamieson
GWG: Actually I'm having two issues with Parse_This::fetch_feeds on david.shanske.com
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jackjamieson
1. Undefined index: type on line 640 of class-parse-this-mf2.php
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jackjamieson
2. None of your site's rel=feeds are returned. I think because they don't have a type property. We talked a bit about this issue before, but maybe the best solution could be to assume any links with rel=feed are mf2. Then they'll be included in the list, and there should be a chance to verify them by previewing the feed
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jgmac1106
@gwg @chrisaldrich what is the url for my webmention endpoint?
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sknebel
you can just look in your html :D
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[mrkrndvs]
[asuh] in regards to Twitter embeds, Alan Levine has made changes that might be useful to look at https://cogdogblog.com/?s=Embed+tweets
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[asuh]
[mrkrndvs] thank you! I’ll see if there’s things I can use in there. The oEmbed renders are mostly useful as is, it’s just that tracking URL that I wish we didn’t have to import. It’s much more useful to see the original source
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[asuh]
and in that spirit, I filed a Trac ticket: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/45610
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[matpacker]
Morning all, out of curiosity, how many of you are using Jetpack on your WP installs?
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GWG
I dropped Jetpack
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GWG
Why?
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GWG
I test it periodically
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[jgmac1106]
yes, jetpack and IndieWeb plugins sometimes get into spats
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[jgmac1106]
and why does Automattic need a "shadow copy" of everything I publish?
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[jgmac1106]
"shadow site" is the actual language in Terms of Service I think
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GWG
That's why I took it off
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GWG
Too much
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