#wordpress 2019-01-19

2019-01-19 UTC
[eddie], [cleverdevil] and chrisaldrich joined the channel
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chrisaldrich Hello fellow Friday night lurkers!
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GWG Hello, chrisaldrich
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GWG Doing some indiewebbing?
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chrisaldrich What's up tonight GWG?
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chrisaldrich trying to make a list of some priorities... too much to do and too little time.
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GWG Well, my UPS died so I had to pull the wires through for the new one. Now I'm sitting back down to Independent Publisher
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chrisaldrich Shall I install it as is or wait another half beat?
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GWG You can, but I'm working on the markup now
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GWG For example, if there is no title, how does it display?
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chrisaldrich Oh, that's a good question... I think I've got post kinds on that install, but primarily I'm only posting articles on it.
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GWG Well, there are a few changes to the theme to accommodate no title.
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chrisaldrich Perhaps have the title of Post kind take over in some sense? Though that requires some different CSS than the standard.
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chrisaldrich I was just looking at the way that this theme handles post kinds in the various views: https://normality.blog/
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chrisaldrich in some views it shows the post kinds sort of context and in others it doesn't....
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chrisaldrich I've also been thinking about how to tweak my RSS feeds for better (?) presentation on readers like micro.blog.
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chrisaldrich Right now I'm adding short titles with emoji so that RSS has something to show in some readers when there isn't a title, but really want to quit doing that...
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chrisaldrich I've added @pfefferle's most recent version of activitypub to tinker around with creating an @chrisaldrich@boffosocko.com that is followable in Mastodon, etc.
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GWG chrisaldrich: That is something I've thought of as well.
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chrisaldrich Perhaps having the Post Kinds title (prepended with an icon) appear in the "title" for RSS may be an interesting stopgap, though it's likely to be repeated in the body again anyway...
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GWG Maybe I'll chat with Manton in Austin
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chrisaldrich Reminds me that I ought to look at how others who are using it are setting it up for micro.blog.
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chrisaldrich I know there are a few plugins that have a micro.blog specific checkbox with custom rss feeds.
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GWG Continuing to sift through the post format support in IP as well.
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chrisaldrich But I'm kind of loath to go that way....
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GWG chrisaldrich, I thought about that
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chrisaldrich It looks like pfefferle has got an option in the ActivityPub plugin that will utilize WordPresses Post Formats to map into ActivityPub. Could be cool to add Post Kinds integration for better display on Mastodon and others too....
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chrisaldrich There's an awful hit and miss way of handling presentation of IndieWeb-type feeds in traditional feed readers, hybrid readers like micro.blog, and new indie readers (which have the most forward thinking method).
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GWG I am hoping to continue tweaking
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chrisaldrich GWG++ for years of continual tweaking!
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Loqi GWG has 72 karma in this channel over the last year (155 in all channels)
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GWG I try
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chrisaldrich You're not just trying, you're succeeding handily.
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chrisaldrich I've just noticed that I haven't been syndicating much other than the occasional tweet.... I need to remember all those syndication checkboxes i've got...
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[asuh] GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 73 karma in this channel over the last year (156 in all channels)
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GWG Three syndication boxes
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GWG Lot in Independent Publisher to wade through
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chrisaldrich I've also got check boxes in SNAP still which I haven't been using...
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GWG chrisaldrich, for what networks?
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chrisaldrich I've got the following set up: Instagram, Twitter, Flipboard, LinkedIn, 500px, Plurk, Pinterest, Reddit, and Tumblr
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chrisaldrich I suppose I most often use Tumblr, LinkedIN, and Flipboard, but only very rarely.
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GWG Busy
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chrisaldrich probably more like lazy...
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GWG I also want to do more with the comment portion
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[pfefferle] [chrisaldrich] does the activitypub plugin work for you?
jeremych_, [eddie], [davidmead], [schmarty] and myravery joined the channel
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GWG myravery, tell us if you have any questions.
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GWG Oh, and your bio link is broken
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myravery yeah. I know about the bio link .... like I said, under construction.
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GWG Okay
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GWG Always like to know who I am talking to. But what do you want to do? There are a lot of things going on in the community depending on your goals
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myravery mostly my barriers have been in trying to toggle back and forth between the wiki (which is only partially accurate for me be it's mostly tuned to WordPress.org, and the plug-in instructions themselves. theses are pretty clear, but WordPress presents them to me all out of order so it's been a bit confusing.th
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GWG The WordPress page on the wiki presents them out of order?
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myravery https://indieweb.org/User:Myravery.me
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GWG That we should look at
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myravery no, WordPress's plug-in manager just gives me a pile of plugins, and I'm following the wiki for their order but the in-plugin text for how to use them on my site
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GWG And if you discovered some WordPress.com specific challenges, we'd want to document them for others. If you don't mind sharing your experience
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myravery absolutely!
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GWG myravery, documentation is a challenge we discuss every month
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GWG We talked about a wizard type flow in the Indieweb plugin, but no one has really worked on it seriously
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myravery I'm a colleague of Tantek's ... some of my initial confusion with the wiki I mentioned to him and is now magically easier :D
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GWG Tantek is good at motivating that
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GWG What is tanteking?
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Loqi Tantek-ing is a method of encouraging people to contribute to the wiki by indirectly prompting the person who first mentioned the term to create a short wiki dfn page for it https://indieweb.org/tanteking
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GWG He has his own verb
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myravery lol
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GWG Also, the wiki is linked in here
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myravery As someone who learned HTML, Japanese, drawing, writing, and gene-editinng in high school and got really into 4 of those 5 things, I would love a wizard right about now.
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myravery ln short: everything is turned on, but still at the front of the process of fiddling with settings, testing syndication, etc. updating copy and testing that are next up; very happy to be able to ask questions here if I get into trouble shooting territory.
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GWG We're here.. not continuously, but throughout the day there's someone
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myravery thanks!
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GWG Still stripping things out of Independent Publisher
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GWG It is definitely more complex than I would like.
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[pfefferle] hey folks… I am curious about your feedback to my latest ZenPress changes: I changed the author pages to look more like social-media profiles https://notiz.blog/author/matthias-pfefferle/ and I updated the syndication links plugin and implemented full post-kinds support… thanks a lot ruxton for your support
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[pfefferle] Post-Kinds
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[pfefferle] Syndication-Links
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GWG I like the look of it.
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GWG Can't see the plugin support as I don't think you use either of them.
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[pfefferle] Not on my main blog
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[pfefferle] But I added two screenshots to the slack channel
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[pfefferle] Oops, the changes are broken in the mobile view 😞
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[pfefferle] But time to go to bed now