#wordpress 2019-02-07
2019-02-07 UTC
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[jgmac1106] ... Ummm launching a new theme isn't little it is amazing!
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[jgmac1106] But those rss feeds for post kinds all sorted?
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[jgmac1106] Especially bookmarks?
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[jgmac1106] Gwg actually @cogdog just pinged me and said he can't find the link to your IP fork in your post
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[jgmac1106] See if you post it they will come. Already wants to try IP... Mainly to figure out how to IndieWeb all the themes
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[jgmac1106] No that is to 2016iw I think
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[jgmac1106] Fixed
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[jgmac1106] I sent link. Readme says not ready for prime time... You should either remove if no longer true (yeah) or add disclaimer in post.... But Congrats... 8 know you worked so hard on it
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[jgmac1106] Different Slack group
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[pfefferle] The Webmention plugin is build to work independent, but if you have plan, that allows installing plugins, why not also install the semantic linkbacks plugin?
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[jgmac1106] I figured semantic linkbacks would break more without mf2
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[jgmac1106] so far just having Bridgy webmentions on WordPress.com to WordPress.com works well enough...wanted to knwo what the WP.org equivalent would be
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[jgmac1106] no post kinds or post types, just minimal replies back and forth since -u-in-reply-to can be anywhere on the page
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[jgmac1106] no, haven't tested the theme just using bridgy on any wp.com for just replies works "well enough"
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[jgmac1106] my students get mention of either a comment or a pinback and can display if they want
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[jgmac1106] going to test the themes you recommended maybe today or tomorrow
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[jgmac1106] just need to find list again
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[pfefferle] the webmention/sl plugin is build with backwards compatibility in mind and should also work fine with mf1 themes
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[pfefferle] even if they use hfeed on single pages
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[pfefferle] mf2 is only needed if you want to use post-kinds and/or micropub
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[pfefferle] no
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[pfefferle] it shows the “was mentioned on X” if you only install the webmention plugin or if the semantic linkbacks plugin does not detect any mf*
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[pfefferle] if you discover other cases, then it is an issue, so please let me know 😉
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[pfefferle] it uses the backwards compatibility mode https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/blob/master/includes/class-linkbacks-mf2-handler.php#L148
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[pfefferle] and it tries to handle hfeed on single pages https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/blob/master/includes/class-linkbacks-mf2-handler.php#L517
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[pfefferle] so it should work for most of the mf1 themes
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[pfefferle] there is one valid point: mf1 does not support the link context (u-in-reply-to, u-like-of, …) so semantic linkbacks only supports rel-inreply-to for mf1 https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/blob/master/includes/class-linkbacks-mf2-handler.php#L115
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[pfefferle] and that is why it falls back the “mention” display
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[jgmac1106] I will ask for volunteers to see what happens
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[pfefferle] so sorry sknebel, your point is also valid
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[jgmac1106] I will manually have people put in u-in-reply-to
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[jgmac1106] we need to test because when they don't do it and have bridgy it comes as a pingback when they do it and have bridgy it comes as a comment
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[jgmac1106] wouldn't the u-in-reply-to be nested in the the old hentry and then be picked up through back compat...it is working some
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[jgmac1106] but if I am having them do it for no reason happy to tell them to stop, if they have bridgy installed then just dropping in the link will get same effect?
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[pfefferle] u-in-reply-to will not work
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[pfefferle] only rel=“in-reply-to”
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[pfefferle] not really different, but mf1 has not really a granular linking type like what we defined in mf2 with “u-*”
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[pfefferle] so the SL plugin can parse the content and author correctly, but can’t categorize the response in “reply”, “like”, “…” and so it falls back to mention…
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[pfefferle] and the mention is displayed as “was mentioned on X”
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[pfefferle] I can add settings to show the content instead, but this can get noisy…
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[jgmac1106] sknebe l will grab a couple students next week, and see why some end up as pingbacks and others as comments
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[pfefferle] 🙂
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106]++
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[pfefferle] 110 😳
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[pfefferle] 😄
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