#wordpress 2019-02-16

2019-02-16 UTC
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GWG
dougbeal: Can you update the theme on your site?
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dougbeal
GWG: WP 5 not required?
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GWG
dougbeal: No. IW26 is just a major update of the theme formerly named Twentysixteen-Indieweb. Fixes some parsing issues.
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GWG
dougbeal: None of my stuff requires 5
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GWG
I have yet to Gutenberg
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dougbeal
GWG: done
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GWG
dougbeal: Let me check to see how it pulls your site. jackjamieson pointed out both our sites were missing authorship data
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dougbeal
GWG: plugins are still out of date, though
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GWG
dougbeal: Any reason you are reluctant to update?
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GWG
Parsing working now
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dougbeal
GWG: nope, just ignored it for 3 months
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GWG
dougbeal: Tell me if there is anything you need.
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[jgmac1106]
IW26 in WordPress.org repo, lets make it an Austin Goal...then dougbeal will update without being told
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dougbeal
jgmac1106: already updated to the theme, working on plugins now
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: I will consider it. I needed a break to do some plugin work.
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GWG
I did make some changes recently to fix some parsing issues.
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dougbeal
GWG: all plugins updated
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GWG
dougbeal: Any PHP notice issues you opened you now want to close?
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dougbeal
GWG: I will go through them, hopefully this weekend
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GWG
I have many more improvements I want to make.
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[jgmac1106]
!tell gwg this is why IW26 in WP.org should be major community goal: https://islandinthenet.com/indieweb-update/
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[Khürt Williams] Replied to Reads, Listens, Watches, and Editable Webmention Types and Avatars in the IndieWeb WordPress Suite by Chris Aldrich (Chris Aldrich | BoffoSocko) Recently David Shanske and I started a podcast, and he thought it would be useful if his site ...
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GWG
I will get to it, I spent a month on it, wanted a change to features for a while
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Loqi
GWG: [jgmac1106] left you a message 6 minutes ago: this is why IW26 in WP.org should be major community goal: https://islandinthenet.com/indieweb-update/
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GWG
I probably need to make more changes.
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[jgmac1106]
is there any way people can help? Is it getting code up to snuff or forms or anything?
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[jgmac1106]
or is there a good autoupdate theme from GitHub plugin we could package with Indieweb plugins?
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GWG
My themes support autoupdate using the GitHub updater plugin
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Loqi
[xavierroy] #10 Support for Github Theme URI
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[jgmac1106]
cool thanks, maybe you should bundle that, nobody updates
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GWG
You can't bundle it.
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GWG
It would violate the repo rules.
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GWG
I can only suggest it
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[jgmac1106]
ohh okay, yeah put it in your Readme. I was gonna wait until WP.org to record your tutorials but if it will be ahwile, I will just add a tutorial on updating and making child themes
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GWG
Well, probably in the coming weeks.
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GWG
I want to do some more parsing improvements for Yarns and Post Kinds, then I'll likely work on it a bit more.
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GWG
I discovered a lot of issues with some people's markup I have to account for.
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[jgmac1106]
yeah makes sense, if templating bad mf2 no point anything else ahead of that
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: So, that included my own.
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[jgmac1106]
I know, used to include mine to
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GWG
Trying to consume it helps in improving it
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GWG
I'm also curious, if I keep improving the consumption code, if I could have Semantic Linkbacks use it. I discussed that with pfefferle in theory.
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chrisaldrich
I just ran across something quirky. If I put <code>#indieweb</code> into a post my wordpress instance the published version works essentially like a Twitter hashtag and it autogenerates a physical link to my indieweb category on my website.
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chrisaldrich
Is this just me or did core change to add this functionality?
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chrisaldrich
To my knowledge, I don't have a plugin that does this sort of funcitonality at all.
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Loqi
[Chris Aldrich] Replied to a post by Khürt Williams (islandinthenet.com) I have just installed the IndieNews plugin but … I don’t understand how to use it. Syndicating Your Posts The IndieNews plugin allows you to automatically syndicate your posts to the Indi...
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chrisaldrich
If it's a core functionality, it could be quite useful for POSSE to Twitter.
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chrisaldrich
hmmm... just tested this out on another instance and didn't get the same results...
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chrisaldrich
GWG, are you aware of any plugins in the indieweb suite that would have this ^^ type of functionality?
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GWG
chrisaldrich, if you type #indieweb into Twitter directly it does that, doesn't it?
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chrisaldrich
yes, Twitter will autowrap it and then clicking on it will provide a stream of those posts with that hashtag.
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GWG
But there are plugins that do that. I know of two. One by pfefferle, one by someone else
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GWG
The other one looks good
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chrisaldrich
which one of pfefferle's does it? maybe that's where mine is coming from?
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GWG
It's one you'd have to install
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GWG
I see syndication links is working for you
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Loqi
[pfefferle] wordpress-hashtags: A very simple WordPress-plugin to add Hashtag support to your blog posts.
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chrisaldrich
It was an unexpected functionality when I did it and I don't remember any plugin mentioning it had that feature when I installed them.
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Loqi
[Peter Raschendorfer] Description The hashtagger Plugin allows you to use #hashtags, @usernames and $cashtags in your posts This plugin uses the WordPress Tag system to automatically convert a #hashtag into a Post Tag. Each #hashtag is added as a “normal” tag (withou...
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GWG
I like the functionality, but would want a nickname cache
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chrisaldrich
just tested and apparently it works without being wrapped in <code> tags
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GWG
Wonder what does it
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chrisaldrich
it not only wraps the hashtag with the typical example.com/tag/hashtagname WP url, but it also adds it to the post's tag area on the post. It's very slick...
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chrisaldrich
I'll have to play plugin hide and seek to see what's doing it.
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GWG
I showed you two that did that
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chrisaldrich
I don't have either of them set up.
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GWG
Keep me posted
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chrisaldrich
The only thing I think that might have it is the official Twitter plugin which I've got. That doesn't seem to be the cause.
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GWG
chrisaldrich, are you up to date on my plugins and theme?
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chrisaldrich
I'm up to date on everything but Webmentions and Post Kinds.
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GWG
Why them?
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chrisaldrich
I'm using my own custom fork of TwentySixteen at the moment.
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GWG
chrisaldrich, any features I should consider porting over?
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chrisaldrich
I still have to do the upgrade to some of my custom post kinds before jumping up. And I still think there's some quirky header issue I haven't been able to track down for Micropub (sorry it's that one and not webmentions).
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GWG
Why Webmentions though?
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GWG
Never mind
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GWG
I feel like I should help you fix it
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chrisaldrich
I need to find a block of time to run some tests. I think you have the ability to sign into my other public test site which has the same issues.
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chrisaldrich
at least with Micropub...
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GWG
I think so, but I need to do it while you are around
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GWG
We've made a lot of improvements
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chrisaldrich
I'm also trying to play some catch up on small quirks/bugs I've seen in things lately.
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GWG
I have been doing that too
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GWG
Working on parsing helps
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GWG
I get to see what comes out when I try to consume my own site
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chrisaldrich
what was the built in parser output url you'd made for testing. I thought I'd bookmarked it, but I'm not seeing it and I don't think you officially documented it.
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chrisaldrich
I don't know if I mentioned it, but some of the paywalls are causing issues with parsing sometimes. I've noticed that the Washington Post fails for me frequently and I think that it's their 4 free article paywall that is the cause of parsing failing.
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chrisaldrich
not sure if changing the user agent doing the parsing would get around it...
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chrisaldrich
GWG: has Chris McLeod popped up in chat for help with things like: https://mrkapowski.com/2019/01/k-theme-update-24-jan-2019.html
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chrisaldrich
sounds like he's almost there, but running into some issues....
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GWG
chrisaldrich, under the Indieweb menu, Parse This
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GWG
Test sites, report issues
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GWG
He has not
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GWG
chrisaldrich, aaronpk's solution to that is to implement special handlers for certain websites...for example, giving your Twitter API key for parsing tweets
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chrisaldrich
's with parse this, the stand alone plugin installed?
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GWG
Actually, I think both will add it
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GWG
It is a great way to see what comes out.
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GWG
Although I do need to make some modifications to not bundle the feed handling piece with Post Kinds
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chrisaldrich
I'm not seeing it on my production server without the standalone press this installed.
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chrisaldrich
let me add it and see if it changes....
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GWG
I may have forgotten what I did
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chrisaldrich
Yes, looks like you need the standalone plugin for Parse This to have that tab show up.
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GWG
Odd..the code is in both.
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tw2113
howdy
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GWG
It should be there
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GWG
Hi, tw2113
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GWG
chrisaldrich, keep me posted on what parses well and doesn't
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GWG
I use that debugger to determine that
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GWG
It also, if you put in a local URL, pulls it from the database directly
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chrisaldrich
What kills me most of all is the general lack of author support on most websites. I suspect that most just have nothing.
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GWG
chrisaldrich, I do the best I can to find it without too many edge cases
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chrisaldrich
It seems like the NY Times used to have good author support, but they changed their markup or methods 6+ months ago and I get nothing now.
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GWG
But if there is a pattern I can use, I want to
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GWG
chrisaldrich, I can investigate the Times again
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GWG
They have extensive markup
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GWG
Just nonstandard
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chrisaldrich
I know a few folks there and at the LA Times. I'll keep kicking them to be a bit more standards compliant.
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chrisaldrich
I'm still not able to get the indieweb.xyz option(s) to appear in the syndication set up with the new version of syndication links... ideas?
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chrisaldrich
If I can get it to work, I'll document it all for the plugin and for the wiki.
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chrisaldrich
Now that syndication links has the bridgy portion, are you planning on removing the publish part of the old bridgy plugin (as well as removing the facebook/google+ options)?
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GWG
chrisaldrich, you have to configure it
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chrisaldrich
I've put in values for the name, UID, and target (and saved), is there anything else I'm missing GWG? I'm expecting once that is done then I'll have a checkbox in the meta box to add it.
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chrisaldrich
And then from there, I'm suspecting that syndication links will just add the URL there and webmention will actually take care of the last mile, right?
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GWG
Exactly
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GWG
Is there no checkbox?
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chrisaldrich
Nope, no checkbox appears....
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GWG
Very strange.
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GWG
I tested it
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GWG
What are the exact name, UID, and target?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "exact name, UID, and target" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "exact name, UID, and target is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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GWG
chrisaldrich: Can you send me a screenshot of the Syndication Links page?
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GWG
I have it working on my test and live site.
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GWG
chrisaldrich: Very odd.
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GWG
Can you try uninstalling and reinstalling Syndication Links?
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GWG
Because my website is using the wordpress.org version
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chrisaldrich
hmmm... I could have sworn I did the uninstall/reinstall thing last week as a test, but trying again today seems to have solved it!
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chrisaldrich
it's at least showing up, now to do something to test it out...
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GWG
chrisaldrich: Glad it is working out