#wordpress 2019-05-08

2019-05-08 UTC
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[xavierroy] Pull the latest update. This was fixed a day or two back.
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GWG What was?
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Loqi GWG: [Rose] left you a message 7 hours, 24 minutes ago: I implemented a workaround for the location indicator image for the time being, it'll be overwritten when your next update comes though 🙂
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[pfefferle] yes, I fixed it one or two days ago. It seems that there were some changes in the Post-Kinds plugin, I was not aware of 😞
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[Rose] The inline style.
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[Serena] I'm not sure what happened, but one moment IndieAuth was working and now it's not. When I try to authorise my site on MicroPub Rocks! I get the following error.
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[Serena] The url I'm trying is https://www.supine-owl.com
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[Serena] I've updated all the IndieWeb plugins, if that makes any difference.
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[Rose] Indiewebify.me seems happy. And I can see your auto endpoints in the source code.
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[Rose] Have any other plugins updated recently? And which host are you using?
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[stefp] Thanks.
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GWG Morning
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Loqi rise and shine!
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GWG [Rose]: I have a question for you regarding the SVG problem
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GWG For the location icon, always being 1rem is fine.
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GWG But what about the syndication icons?
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GWG And the rel me icons
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GWG Post Kinds as ell, but it has different contexts, the others don't
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[Rose] Well, icons being 1rem in general should work I think. If someone specifically wants larger syndication icons they can make their own template?
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GWG Well, Syndication Links has a setting for small medium and large
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GWG I believe 16px, 24px, 32px
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GWG If I switch to inline max width per your suggestion, I suppose it could be 1, 1.5, 2
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GWG I'll make some other minor fixes to Simple Location and get that out at least.
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[Rose] Those would be logical settings.
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GWG I think, if I switch from absolute to relative sizes, I might just remove the default CSS sizing.
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GWG As it would be dictated by everything around it being sized.
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GWG Probably a better move.
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[Rose] That's probably good. I'm a big fan of relative sizing personally.
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[Rose] Change of topic (not that we should end the current one, but this is on my mind): How are people backing up their WP sites?
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GWG My design sensibilities could use help
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GWG I backup the database plus files
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GWG There are some good plugins though
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[Rose] I've checked the whole directory into Git, and I'm running a script to back it up daily, said script also dumps the DB into a .sql file in a folder in the directory before doing so, and deletes any DB dumps older than 7 days.
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[Rose] Well, to commit it rather
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[Rose] These aren't incremental DB backups, so I hope the last 7 days is enough
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GWG I like redundancy
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GWG Re the design issue, any help on aesthetics would be appreciated
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[Rose] Anything in particular?
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GWG All the kind view templates could use improvement in that regard
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[Rose] Ok. Where are your SVGs coming from for now? Fontawesome?
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GWG I will try to address the icon issues in all plugins. Have to go one by one
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GWG Depends on the plugin
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GWG Post Kinds uses font awesome svg files inlined
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[Rose] Maybe they should be unified?
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GWG Syndication Links and Indieweb use the Simple Icons repo, because it focuses on brand icons
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[Rose] Fontawesome does have brand icons
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GWG Simple Location uses one icon for location and many for weather, from a weather icon font set
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GWG Fontawesome doesn't cover all the brands
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GWG But is there an ease of using one overall?
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GWG The import is automated
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[xavierroy] [Rose] For adding the emoji to title, check my clumsy attempt: https://github.com/xavierroy/odyssey-plugin/blob/f92a52f3c7f6daef49633848179af562f8f1fbd7/odyssey-plugin.php#L163
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[Rose] Woot!
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Loqi woot
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[Rose] On the replacement for the pin icon front: Fontawesome has a compass icon that might work GWG?
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[Rose] Xavierroy++
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Loqi Xavierroy has 2 karma over the last year
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[Rose] I now have an idea for a tagmoji plugin
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[xavierroy] Feel free to improve on it. I'm not a programmer 🙂 I copied this and modified a couple of things to get it working
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GWG Do we need it replaced?
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GWG I was only looking at resizing
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GWG Although if you want multiple options, I suppose I could add them
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[Rose] I'm not a fan of the pin, to me it represents pinned posts a little too much.
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GWG You mean the arrow
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GWG Pin is checkin, which I am willing to change
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[Rose] No, the arrow in simple location is great.
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[Rose] Yes, the check in pin is what I meant. Just found this: https://fontawesome.com/icons/map-marked-alt?style=solid
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GWG Checkin is in Post Kinds
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GWG I am going to fix the size issue in all plugins. No problem swapping the icons concurrently if you want to propose amendments
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[Rose] I propose the above linked icon for checkins
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GWG I think it may be an improvement over the pin
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[Rose] I think it more accurately identifies that it's location related.
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[Rose] Just the location marker without the map would work too
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GWG I don't like the location marker personally
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GWG By itself
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[Rose] Me either really.
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[xavierroy] What about https://fontawesome.com/icons/street-view?style=solid ?
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[xavierroy] look smore like someone with a hula loop 🙂
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jeremycherfas Failed hula hooper
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GWG Isn't that a logo for Google?
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[Rose] Now I can't unsee the failed hula hooping.
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GWG I am onboard with the map marker, I suppose
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[Rose] But yes, that's the Google Street View loho
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GWG Don't want to do that
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[Rose] *logo
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GWG http://simpleicons.org/
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GWG This is the Syndication Links icon set
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[Rose] https://fontawesome.com/icons?d=gallery&q=Location&m=free
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GWG Either way, I will be working on it
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GWG Before I go back to other projects
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GWG I always stop for bugs
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GWG And this sizing thing effects every plugin
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[Rose] These are the various things that fontawesome considers location related.
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GWG So I have to update all of them
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[Rose] Sorry for finding a bug :P
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GWG Never apologize for finding something that should be fixed
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[Rose] It was a tongue in cheek apology
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GWG I just want to get through more items on my list before Summit
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GWG More annoyed no one mentioned it prior
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[pfefferle] GWG can we have a talk about working together on new features? (Webmention)
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GWG I feel bad I may have affected people
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GWG pfefferle, any time
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[Rose] You didn't do it on purpose GWG
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GWG [pfefferle]: You saw my notes re where I was starting...with redoing retrieval...and the fetch branch
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GWG I care about my users, [Rose]
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[pfefferle] GWG yes and that is why! I would love to have a process to work together and to have a discussion about new stuff
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GWG [pfefferle]: What are you proposing?
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GWG How do we do that?
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[pfefferle] I have no idea, that’s why I wanted to chat about that a bit
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GWG I figured that I would implement a preliminary version of the fetch functionality, and then we'd review it before merging
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GWG And keep going
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GWG I think when we get to migrating the old data to the new format it will be harder
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GWG I tested some code for that when we get to it
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[pfefferle] I have already feedback to the mf2 dependency inclusion 😅
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GWG Oh?
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GWG Don't like the composer auto copy?
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[pfefferle] Yes 😅
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GWG Alternatives?
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[pfefferle] Like in the semantic linkbacks
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[pfefferle] Install it as dependency and keep it in vendor
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[pfefferle] To show that it is a dependency and not code from us
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GWG The only reason I wanted to move it was I don't like to include the vendor directory.
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GWG What about a dependency directory under includes?
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[pfefferle] And that is why I asked how we want to work together
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GWG [pfefferle]: I am fine with, despite my comment about not including the vendor directory, including something that indicates it is a dependency
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GWG If there isn't a middle solution, I would just revert it back into vendor
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GWG There's just a lot of dev dependencies like phpcs in vendor I worry about accidentally including.
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[pfefferle] I see, where do we want to discuss that?
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[pfefferle] Issues?
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GWG It's best due timezone issues between us
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GWG Issue opened
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[pfefferle] You don‘t want to talk to me in person 😞
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[tantek] Awww. Missed you in Berlin pfefferle!
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[tantek] Maybe you can join us in Brighton 19-20 October?
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[pfefferle] Yes, sadly it couldn‘t make it to Berlin and Düsseldorf 😞
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[pfefferle] Brighton is now marked in my calendar
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[pfefferle] Tanks for the reminder 😘
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[pfefferle] I will be at the WordCamp in Berlin!
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[pfefferle] anyone from <!here> attending the WordCamp europe?
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[tantek] pfefferle great! https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton if you'd like a URL with your calendar entry 🙂
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[tantek] when is WordCamp Europe?
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Loqi what
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[Rose] June 20-22.
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[Rose] I am in Amsterdam delivering a workshop at a conference then, unfortunately.
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GWG Darn...
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GWG I can't do Brighton
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[frank] I might be at WordCamp Europe...
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[frank] No wait. I thought it was in Amsterdam.
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[pfefferle] Berlin
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[pfefferle] https://2019.europe.wordcamp.org
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[kimberlyhirsh] Q: When I go dark on Friday (see #chat for why), if I disable comments on all posts & pages but still have the webmention plugin activated, will I still get webmentions?
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[Rose] Yes, but depending on your moderation setup they won't be shown AFAIK
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[jgmac1106] My students use a mix of private password protected posts, we have three levels of prvacy in class just you and me, just the class, public facing, and then the standard WP approval UI to moderate webmentions. some missed categories but an effective level
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[jgmac1106] I do wish that password protected automatically removed a post from both an h-feed and xml, I hate that the RSS reader I uses shows "this post password protected" still a marker that can cause vulnerability or be an attack vector
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[kimberlyhirsh] As long as they'll be in the database...
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GWG I have a proposal for private posts on WordPress in my brain
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[Rose] I request it be externalised at some point!
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GWG Might do that
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GWG It involves the Indieauth plugin and autoauth
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GWG Are you interested in private posts?
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