#wordpress 2019-05-26

2019-05-26 UTC
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GWG
Okay, for no particular reason...another provider for Simple Location
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doubleloop
Any suggestions about having a fallback post title for notes, likes, reposts, etc?
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doubleloop
I have a friend who subscribes to my feed in an RSS feader, and mentioned that my posts just appear as #5560, #5561, etc
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jeremycherfas
A lot of people use something like 2019-05-26 which micro.blog etc will ignore
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jeremycherfas
And IIRC you can filter it out so it does not display as your title.
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doubleloop
Yes a date for my notes would be an improvement. And maybe even some extra context for some of the other post kinds, like 'Reposted a post by [author]'.
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jeremycherfas
Yup, that could work too.
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doubleloop
I guess it's best to have the fallback title appear only for RSS readers, and not just add it to all posts? Or maybe indie readers handle it gracefully, and ignore a note title if it's present in the microformats?
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jeremycherfas
Don't know. Sorry.
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doubleloop
I guess it's probably best to only add it where it is needed.
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[Rose]
On Grav I used dates, GWG added something for notes where it should take the first few words as the slug I think.
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GWG
Morning
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Loqi
rise and shine!
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GWG
I need to check the RSS output on titles in WordPress
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GWG
On micro.blog I use the jsonfeed output and I believe that doesn't show empty titles
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GWG
It always outputs the title
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GWG
That should be fixed
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GWG
Maybe will add a better template into Post Kinds
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doubleloop
Huh, must be something to do with my WP setup. My atom feed from doubleloop.net has titles like #5678; but for bit.doubleloop.net, which is a fresh, recent setup, the atom feed titles are empty.
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doubleloop
Well, that'd be another reason why I should've made a child theme rather than a *copy* of SemPress way back when XD
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aaronpk
Even better, set an empty title and ask your friends to file support requests with their rss readers to display the posts better
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doubleloop
Yep I'll do that too :) - my issue here was that *when* the title was empty in my post, the older version of SemPress was filtering that to make the post title be #$post_id.
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doubleloop
Gonna just switch to SemPress for the meanwhile, and then I'll legit have empty post titles. Which I can tell people should be respected by their feed reader.
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[Rose]
Now I'm glad that I made a child theme for Autonomie
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GWG
doubleloop, standard wordpress feeds always output the title
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GWG
Jsonfeed shouldn't because I filter for empty titles
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aaronpk
Ohh sneaky
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GWG
Snea
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GWG
Sneaky?
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GWG
How so?
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doubleloop
GWG: how do you mean? As in it'll output <title></title> rather than omitting the title tag altogether?
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GWG
doubleloop, in RSS and Atom yes
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GWG
It will output a title even if titleless
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GWG
I want to fix that
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GWG
I can override core
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doubleloop
GWG: ah got you.
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aaronpk
Sounds like a good request to patch core too
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GWG
So, if Post Kinds has custom feed templates that would address it
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GWG
aaronpk, we see how successful that is, but will open a ticket.
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GWG
I have an idea that they'd go for, I think
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GWG
Hook it
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[Rose]
Patching core is a good joke, assuming you mean getting a bug fix accepted
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GWG
Exactly
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GWG
They don't respond much
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[Rose]
Creating a plugin to work around the problem is a more realistic fix. I should ask Mr MarsEdit if he's considered that
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GWG
That's why I would rather have Post Kinds fix it as I can have it support linkblog style
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GWG
Mr. MarsEdit? Strange name
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[Rose]
Daniel Jalkut I think, he recently posted about the poor experience he's had trying to fix a Wordpress bug
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GWG
Yes, and I have the same experience
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[Rose]
Yup, I won't even try to fix that now.
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GWG
So, but me saying I will fix RSS dates back for a while.
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GWG
To when tantek commented on the WordPress comment feed.
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GWG
Same problems
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doubleloop
(Just in case anyone was confused as to what I was babbling about earlier, this is what SemPress used to do, but doesn't anymore: https://github.com/pfefferle/SemPress/blob/1.5.5/sempress/functions.php#L488)
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GWG
I remember that
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doubleloop
Listened to the latest episode of An IndieWeb Podcast
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doubleloop
Favourite line: "If you're not there, it isn't raining"
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GWG
Fun
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GWG
I enjoy talking to chrisaldrich
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doubleloop
It's really handy - I learned about On This Day and the ability to exclude from feeds from it
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GWG
It's in the readme
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GWG
I really should put it on the config page though
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doubleloop
Which readme?
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GWG
For Post Kinds
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GWG
The exclude kind is a Post Kinds feature
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doubleloop
Ah yep I see it in the changelog for 3.2.4
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doubleloop
Anyway, point being, the podcast is really fun
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doubleloop
Ah nice the kind widget is cool too
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doubleloop
I had a custom html widget doing a similar thing but I like this with the counts next to each kind
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[Rose]
I just switched from sending an include feed to micro.blog to an exclude feed, we'll see if I crossed the streams when doing so..!
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doubleloop
Which is your exclude feed [Rose]? I didn't fully follow the bit on the podcast about setting up a separate feed from your main feed, but having it be your main feed.
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doubleloop
Is it your /microblog page?
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[Rose]
No, it's everything, but not certain post kinds. So likes, checkins, reposts, favourites, eat, drink, play and listen are excluded.
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[Rose]
(Which by definition is not everything, but there's no category filter
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GWG
You need a similar category filter?
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GWG
I could provide a gist
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[Rose]
No, I don't want a category filter.
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GWG
I have to learn all the ins and outs of RSS and Atom now
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[Rose]
Previously I was using categories, but as micro.blog supports multiple feeds adding multiple category feeds is easy.
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GWG
No one on micro.blog posts checkins?
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doubleloop
Hmm I thought I remembered seeing somewhere that Mastodon Autopost can be used as a syndication target via Syndication Links.
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doubleloop
I've got the target setup via hooks in functions.php at the moment
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GWG
Syndication Links is easily extensible
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[Khurt]
To my knowledge, micro.blog does not specifically support checkins.
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GWG
Yes, but does anyone try to send them?
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