#wordpress 2019-06-26

2019-06-26 UTC
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GWG Hi, jackjamieson
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jackjamieson Hi GWG, How are you?
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GWG https://jackjamieson.net/12031-2/
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Loqi [Jack Jamieson] a post by an author
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GWG Automation fail
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GWG I am fine. Lots to do
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GWG Leaving for PDX tomorrow night
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jackjamieson Ah, that was posted from Monocle on my phone. Just edited in WordPress and Post Kinds was able to parse the author info
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GWG It should automatically add it
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jackjamieson Hmmm
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GWG May have to change the display
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GWG Also, will check the code
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GWG I just did one from Quill the other day
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jackjamieson I'll keep an eye out for similar examples
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GWG jackjamieson, how is the new Post Kinds for you?
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jackjamieson So far so good - since I'm mostly working with Yarns right now the only thing I've really observed is that there is no longer any conflict with Parse-This, which makes me very happy
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GWG Hoping to get some media post enhancements
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jackjamieson I got sucked into making a few more Yarns tweaks today. Currently trying to fix a bug I had when marking all items read in a channel
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GWG I get sucked in all the time
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GWG If I get that, I might do citations
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GWG Which is my link storage plan
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jackjamieson Maybe I'll play around with some media posts at IWS - I don't think I have any on my site
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GWG I want to do more
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GWG Do you have posting itches?
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jackjamieson Hmmm, well it'd be nice to address that bug you pointed out earlier with https://jackjamieson.net/12031-2/
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Loqi [Jack Jamieson] a post by an author
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jackjamieson And I'm thinking through my syndication flow a bit. I don't like how replies are rendered in Twitter by default ( '> text of the post I'm replying to' before the reply itself)
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jackjamieson As a result, I've started turning off syndication by default, so I have a chance to edit an excerpt before I POSSE to twitter
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jackjamieson And along similar lines, is it possible to set syndication options for each post-type? e.g. syndicate notes, reposts, and likes to Twitter, but not syndicate for replies or articles?
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GWG Well, snarfed challenged people to create their own backfeed implementations, why not POSSE
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GWG I wanted to add more parameters
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GWG Need to brainstorm
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jackjamieson I've just been thinking about that recently. To be honest I sort of like the friction of turning syndication off by default, but it's sometimes a pain
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[asuh] jackjamieson: I feel similarly about syndication to Twitter from a Note. There are quirks that bother me enough to turn off syndication by default. One is my preference, others maybe more universal
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GWG If you look, Syndication Links doesn't have a POSSE by default option
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jackjamieson Ah, I've only been using the Bridgy plugin, I haven't enabled the POSSE options in Syndication links
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GWG jackjamieson, I no longer maintain the Bridgy plugin
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GWG I merged it in
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GWG I should have it pulled from t
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GWG the .org repository
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jackjamieson Ah, I should switch over then
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Loqi +1
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GWG Same functionality, improved
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GWG But no POSSE by default option
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GWG I have some ideas
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jackjamieson asuh, Since I don't post a huge amount, I'm pretty content to turn syndication off by default and then manually edit excerpts. But I can imagine that'd be a larger burden for people who post more often
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GWG https://github.com/dshanske/syndication-links/issues/89
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Loqi [dshanske] #89 Syndicate Based on Other Parameters
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GWG Also, Micropub doesn't have that option
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jackjamieson GWG++ #89 is exactly what I'm thinking
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Loqi GWG has 92 karma in this channel over the last year (167 in all channels)
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GWG Feel free to add thoughts
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[asuh] I want to spend some time defining exactly what bothers me about auto-syndication of post kinds, haven’t yet because I’m lost in the world of React right now. But I’ve had syndications in the last months that I looked over at Twitter thinking “ugh, that’s not what I was expecting”. Hopefully I’ll either solve those issues or create new Github issues to help
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[asuh] oh yeah, I guess I created an issue related to #89 above, nice
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GWG I think I need a direct plugin, rather than Bridgy Publish
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[asuh] GWG: a direct plugin in addition to bridgy functionality in Syndication Links?
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GWG Yes
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GWG That would act as a provider to Syndication Links directly to the API of a service
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GWG I wrote it so it would only take a few lines of code to add to an existing plugin
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[asuh] So your merge of bridgy into Syndication Links isn’t giving you the results you hoped for? I think it’s actually a good place for bridgy to live
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GWG It is, but Bridgy is a provider
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GWG We can have many
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[asuh] ah, ok. i’m not familiar with the concept of it being a provider
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[snarfed] to play devil's advocate, we have lots of different POSSE options right now. there's a solid plurality there. i don't know that we need more of those in the same way that need more backfeed options
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[snarfed] [snarfed] set the channel topic: Help plan the IndieWeb WordPress ecosystem!
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[snarfed] on an unrelated note, GWG any progress on merging the webmention and semantic linkbacks plugins?
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GWG snarfed, stopped to work on some support for Yarns
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GWG And the library is used by Post Kinds, so I had to issue an update due dependency issues
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GWG Going back to it
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GWG Although pfefferle and I had a discussion on a matter I didn't think we'd differ on
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GWG Loading dependencies
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[snarfed] ok. we've wanted to merge them for literally 3-4 yrs (?), but never quite manage to. might be a good goal for summit.
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[snarfed] that and/or https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/41 . my single biggest personal itch (bug) with them. also open for almost 3 yrs! i even implemented it, and it worked great, but somehow regressed later.
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Loqi [snarfed] #41 for mentions, show full content text if it's small enough
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GWG snarfed, first stage is bring in php mf2
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GWG And incorporate it in
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[pfefferle] I have a nice Package that renames namespaces
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[pfefferle] Perhaps this helps with the package/dependency problem
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[Jay_Hoffmann] Kind of new here, can someone link me to an explanation of what a backfeed is?
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aaronpk what is backfeed?
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Loqi Backfeed is the process of syndicating interactions on your POSSE copies back (AKA reverse syndicating) to your original posts https://indieweb.org/backfeed
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[Jay_Hoffmann] Thank you!
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GWG [pfefferle]: Maybe worth a try
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GWG In the meantime, php-mf2 doesn't change that often
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