#wordpress 2019-07-02

2019-07-02 UTC
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GWG
Trying to decide what to do next
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GWG
There are a few approaches to where I want to go
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[xavierroy]
View templates would help more people use post kinds 😄
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[jgmac1106]
Get to stable enough and crank on themes, after watching three first time WP launches this weekend clear patterns exist in what users want in WP themes,
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[jgmac1106]
we plan your GWGCon vacation and try to leave with 3-4 more themes. We just need a page of theme options to point folks too....So many themes is crushing waste of time...folks waste hours...not enough themes and the walk away....Need an IndieWeb theme page with 7-10 choices....put effort into recruiting team for focused hackathon
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[jgmac1106]
Have to teach but want to really capture the debrief of IndieWeb 101 from the Saturday session, through the Sunday session through the five brnad new websites we saw....while its still fresh
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[jgmac1106]
and charge for them!! People were more than happy to just fork out $30-$50 for domains and hosting...rope in [grantcodes] to future proof. Build one page. Have 10 choices, make it 29.95 a theme and 99 a year for pro support, co-op or private it would do fine
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GWG
I am in fixes mode right now
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[Slackbot]1
I am in fixes mode right now
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GWG
After that, may do themes
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[Slackbot]1
After that, may do themes
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[jgmac1106]
I wish theming was as easy as saying just edit the CSS....could help more, happy to mock up designs and even lay them out, just don't know how to make them work inside WP...it's really 2-3 major design patterns I keep seeing people look for
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[jgmac1106]
infinite scroll(ish) and full bleed design being most popular IMO
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[grantcodes]
Yeah I'd be interested to see what people would want from a built for indieweb theme. Like not a port of an existing theme
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[jgmac1106]
okay with graph for now? Class start can't do CSS layout, sliders look to be finally on their way out but I would leave one theme with one, and be neat to do it as a collection display
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[jgmac1106]
well off to record instructional videos for class, will mock up what I consider being the three design paradigms I think people want->from there color and font them with different border classes and name a horse a zebra
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[tantek]
[grantcodes] perhaps more deliberate design of how all the different response on posts are displayed, and summarized in streams
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[tantek]
responses* like likes, reposts, bookmarks etc.
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[tantek]
Existing WP themes are kinda clueless about that, since existing blogs are kinda clueless beyond "hey look comments"
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[jgmac1106]
gwg's method of taxonomies is easily extendable to different views my "stream" was /kind/note, reply, photo I think, would have to check
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[jgmac1106]
do lose the thread of thoughts...https://archive.jgregorymcverry.com/stream/ though nobody has a great way for threaded notes yet
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Loqi
cleverdevil
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[jgmac1106]
and clearly the page is broken somehow
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GWG
I also do exclude/kind/note
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GWG
That's just for automatic archive generation
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GWG
[tantek]: I actually run post type discovery on posts and use it to set the taxonomy in WordPress so I can generate the archives.
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Guest48370
I'm having issues with the Aperture plugin. IndieAuth is working just fine. My issue is specifically with the microsub endpoint.
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Guest48370
This is jeannie, btw. I copied the error page that Monocle spit out in case it offered any clues as to how I can fix this. https://jeannie.digital/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/MicroSubApertureError.txt
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Guest48370
When I try to log in to any microsub reader, it authorizes the indieauth token just fine, but it doesn't/can't/won't pull any channels or allow me to create any channels.
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GWG
Does the Indieauth settings page in your admin say it had a problem?
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Guest48370
Nope. No issues indicated with IndieAuth
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GWG
That is odd.
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GWG
Might need to consult with aaronpk, and figure it out
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GWG
Other apps using IndieAuth work?
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Guest48370
Yep. Able to log in with IndieAuth, no issues. The issue is specifically with microsub.
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[aaronpk]
So that's saying the Wordpress token endpoint is saying the access token is invalid
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GWG
Yes
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GWG
But wondering why if other functions are working
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Guest48370
Only happens when trying to utilize the microsub endpoint. Apps that aren't trying to access channels (Quill, MicroPublisher, Indigenous without Aperture Installed) all work just fine.
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GWG
That's why I wanted some ideas, aaronpk
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GWG
If you want, the built in Microsub endpoint for WordPress just reached initial release
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Guest48370
There's a built-in microsub endpoint for WP? How do I set that up?
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GWG
We could use some users
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GWG
It just hit 1.0 during the Summit
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GWG
Not yet in the repo
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Guest48370
Ah ok. I'll give it a go now.
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GWG
Please give us your feedback
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GWG
Did you get a new token?
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GWG
Either way, clearer more to debug
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Guest48370
Let me clear the tokens and try it again
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Guest48370
Cleared all tokens. Tried again. Same error page.
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GWG
Would you be able to give me a limited account on the installation? Non admin? I want to see if I could log in.
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Guest48370
user gwg password 1%95h)0VF%2Cn8oserc2GW9L
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GWG
I'm going in and changing the password ASAP
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[Vanessa]
Ooh, I’ll take a look at that new plugin when I get the time!
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GWG
Guest48370: There is no new token showing in the backend.
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GWG
I just tried the same exchange to log in using Monocle
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Guest48370
I'm showing 2 tokens for Monocle
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GWG
But I'm showing 0.
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GWG
I just tried to log into Quill, and it did the same thing. No tokens
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GWG
Do you have a Quill token I may have just created?
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GWG
If so, I just found a more worrisome bug
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GWG
If somehow, logging in with one account is creating credentials on another...that would be very bad.
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GWG
It gave me a token in your name.
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GWG
That is not good
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GWG
I had better drop all other plans and do some tests on that.
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Guest48370
My site is set as a single user site. It's not amultiauthor site so it will only recognize me when using INdieAuth
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GWG
Yes.
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GWG
But, I logged in and it issued a token for you.
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GWG
That is definitely a bug
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GWG
And I definitely have to fix that right now
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GWG
I don't think it is necessarily related.
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GWG
But need to check everything
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GWG
Guest48370: Again, I understand that. But, you didn't issue me an author account.
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GWG
This is definitely a bug.
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GWG
Will need to address it.
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Guest48370
I issued you an Editor account
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GWG
Yes.
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GWG
An account that had posts, excuse me.
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GWG
Either way, it is a security issue for me to be able to get credentials in the name of your account.
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GWG
I have to see if I can reproduce that problem and issue a fix ASAP
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GWG
Regardless of the single author setting
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Guest48370
Ah. Ok.
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GWG
If I can't reproduce it...then I might be able to, by exploring it, diagnose your problem
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GWG
Fortunately, as long as you only have one user, this isn't an issue
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Guest48370
Yeah it's just me.
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GWG
Guest48370: Thank you for revealing this concern, either way.
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Guest48370
No problem. Glad I could help?
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GWG
Bug confirmed
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GWG
All other work will cease until fixed.
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GWG
Guest48370: Security trumps all
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Guest48370
Very true.
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[asuh]
GWG++
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Loqi
GWG has 92 karma in this channel over the last year (167 in all channels)
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Guest48370
I guess I'll uninstall for now, then?
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GWG
For now.
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GWG
IndieAuth is perfectly safe for single users...but I need to fix this multi-user bug
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GWG
I will look for anything that might explain your issue as well.
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GWG
[asuh]: Are you using Microsub and might you have had a problem?
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[asuh]
GWG: I’ve tested locally it but I’m not running it on my live site so I wouldn’t have seen it. I’ve held off on installing it until I make time to understand integration into WordPress vs using RSS feed readers.
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GWG
[asuh]: Tell me if you have any questions.
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GWG
In the meantime, anything on IndieAuth while I'm in that code is always appreciated.
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GWG
I think I should be able to fix this quickly
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Guest48370
I'll leave your account up on my site for now in case you need a guinea pig for testing fixes.
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GWG
I changed the email
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GWG
and I'm easily accessible
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GWG
I'm almost always in here
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Guest48370
I saw. That's good. I didn't know what email to put in.
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GWG
Thank you for using plugins I wrote.
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GWG
It's my name.
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Guest48370
No problem. Thank you for writing the plugins for me to use.
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GWG
My email is the same as my domain
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Guest48370
I'm not quite as accessible through this channel. I'm much more accessible by email or social media because I can access that easier on my phone and get notifications. I have a 3yo and I'm a SAHM so...
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Guest48370
But just shoot me an email or a DM on Twitter or whatever if I can help you with any more testing. Again, I'll leave your account up on my site so you can use me as a guinea pig. Thank you so much for all your help.
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Guest48370
It's bath time here so I have to log off. TTYS. Thanks again.
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GWG
We have Slack, which has notifications.
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GWG
Either way, email is fine.
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