#wordpress 2019-08-28

2019-08-28 UTC
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jhsheridan Hi everyone... I'm in the process of implementing post kinds on my site. Can someone help me better understand the purpose of the "response" section that is inserted into each post
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GWG jhsheridan: What exactly confuses you?
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GWG That is the context for the post.
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jhsheridan It appears underneath the title for me. And all that I see is an icon (only for certain post types) and a border
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jhsheridan can you explain what you mean by context?
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GWG Well, what type of post are you trying for?
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jhsheridan Well I've got articles, photos, bookmarks, videos, and notes as test posts so far
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jhsheridan Is the response area just supposed to be a visual indicator of the kind of post?
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GWG Articles and notes don't have responses.
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GWG They would optionally just have the icon
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GWG Bookmark should have the entire context of the URL
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/kind/bookmark/
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GWG See this
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jhsheridan I think maybe just the name "response" is confusing me.
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GWG You mean the CSS class name?
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jhsheridan yeah the section class
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jhsheridan I was thinking of it in terms of someone responding to the post
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Ruxton https://indieweb.org/responses <--
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GWG It dates from when the only kind was reply
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jhsheridan ohhh... I think maybe I understand it now. So for a video post kind. If I post a link from youtube, I should think of it in terms of here is a link from youtube and Im posting my response to it here on my site.
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jhsheridan Is that the correct way to think of it?
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jhsheridan where an an article or a note is something that I generate myself, so it's not a response to content that exists elsewhere
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Ruxton that's my understanding
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GWG For a video post, that is the metadata on the post.
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GWG I probably should change the css class name.
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GWG But it didn't occrut to me someone would take it like that
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jhsheridan It could just be me. Thank you so much for clarifying.
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GWG I had a hard time figuring out what to call that class
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GWG It does nothing much for a note or article
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GWG For a photo, video, or audio, it is metadata on the media
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GWG For a reply, bookmark, like, etc it is the citation
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jhsheridan that makes sense
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jhsheridan Is there a way to override the html output for each post kind?
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jhsheridan I feel like I saw that somewhere a while back, but I'm having a hard time finding it now.
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GWG It is themeable
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Ruxton https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds/tree/master/views <-- yu can override any of these in your theme
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GWG In your theme, you can add a directory called kind_views, and copy any file from views in the plugin folder and it will use it instead
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GWG Hi, Ruxton
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GWG Long time no speak
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Ruxton Hey :)
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GWG Anything new there?
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GWG I did mean to talk to you after the last media update
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Ruxton nah, I've been busy. Bought my first house ;P been networking, painting and carpeting
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jhsheridan exactly what I was looking for... thanks to both of you
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Ruxton about to move in a few weeks, so half my world is in boxes
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GWG I'm away from home for a few weeks
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[Michael_Beckwit fair warning, new end of month, new "5 for the future" day on friday, so chances are i'll once again be in indieweb plugin code
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GWG [Michael_Beckwit: I need to review some PRs
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GWG I keep trying to focus on the webmention PRs
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Ruxton what s 5 for the future?
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Ruxton *reads* ahhhh
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[Michael_Beckwit Matt Mullenweg outlined it something like dedicating 5% of your work week to open source/WP community
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[Michael_Beckwit we take it pretty seriously at my employer, but instead of doing 2hr/week, we make it a whole day worth
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[Michael_Beckwit but only 1 day for the month
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[Michael_Beckwit i kind of want to get deeper into webmentions as it is one of the plugins i've actually started using and trying to utilize
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GWG [Michael_Beckwit: Working on an upgrade/merge with Semantic Linkbacks
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jhsheridan I'm interested to know how you guys are handling titles within wordpress
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jhsheridan Are you titling things for your own use and then hiding the titles for certain post kinds?
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jhsheridan Or are you just not using them at all for certain post kinds?
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[xavierroy] some kinds like articel do have a title
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[xavierroy] usually with post kinds, some posts do not have a title like notes and reads and wataches
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[xavierroy] most people usually have the timestamp as a port title for the titleless posts
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[tonz] not sure whom to address this question to: when I use Bridgy in WP to posse to Twitter or Flickr, those show up as syndication channels in micropub clients like Quill. I also use the Mastodon for WP plugin to POSSE to my Mastodon account (not using my blog as AP itself) What does it take to have that Mastodon plugin to show up in micropub as syndication endpoint
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GWG Someone to write a five line function that tells Syndication Links how to trigger the Mastodon plugin's post function
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GWG I designed Syndication Links in WordPress to act as a UI for other plugins
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[xavierroy] Fed.brid.gy?
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GWG snarfed would be thrilled if people developed backfeed and POSSE outside of bridgy
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[snarfed] yes! backfeed at least. (there's plenty of non-bridgy posse.)
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[snarfed] but i'd never tell a user to do it just to get backfeed for themselves. it's a big project, for any silo.
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GWG [snarfed]: I was going with the idea of less single point of failure
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GWG I added posse to syndication links as a UI with no actual silo code to bridge the gap between Micropub and random WordPress posse plugin
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