#wordpress 2019-09-13

2019-09-13 UTC
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GWG
Morning
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Loqi
good morning
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[Will_Monroe]
Morning!
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GWG
Morning
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[Will_Monroe]
@GWG during a webmention test yesterday, I got an unexpected result that I would like to troubleshoot https://willtmonroe.com/blog/116/#comments. The webmention I received said "Couldn’t parse a pagename or summary btw". Does this look like a problem I can resolve on my end?
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GWG
There is content
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GWG
The page doesn't have a title because notes don't have titles
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[Will_Monroe]
I see. Are "pagename" and "title" equivalent in this instance
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[Will_Monroe]
?
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GWG
I think that is what the comment means
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beko[m]
Oh. I deleted my reply. didn't know you were going to show em [Will_Monroe]
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[Will_Monroe]
@GWG thank you!
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[Will_Monroe]
@beko[m] Hey that's alright. I'm was just trying to make sense of what was missing in the webmention display on my end.
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beko[m]
Well, without a summary it looks really ugly on my theme. Guess I've to tweak my css when there is none. At least it doesn't say "No Name" no more 😁
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[Will_Monroe]
I see. But based on what I know so far, it sounds like a proper post with a title would look better.
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beko[m]
Probably. The author data really adds to it, imho
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beko[m]
I tend to add _some_ title for my stuff because without a title it looks bad in the backend on the post list table as well.
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[Will_Monroe]
Sorry if this is obvious but what is "author data"? Is that just data drawn from the h-card like what I have here? https://willtmonroe.com/blog/116/#comments
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GWG
In this case, it is referring then to the title in the title bar
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GWG
Which I can look at someday
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GWG
If I figure out what it should say
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GWG
As for author data, yes
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[Will_Monroe]
This is helpful. It seems that adding titles to all Post Kind posts is helpful for readers/commenters, even when the titles aren't meant to be displayed in the context of a page with multiple posts on WP.
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beko[m]
This is what I understand as well.
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[Will_Monroe]
👍
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[Will_Monroe]
I really appreciate how everyone here is willing to share expertise.
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beko[m]
It's interesting what information can be parsed. Also a lot of stuff I was never aware of that it is announced by WP / Plugins at all.
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jgmac1106
Will_Monroe I tried cloudfare, not sure you can get subdomains on the free account. I know it works on $20 a month as I use it for other sites, think I can do it for free if I changed the cname records…but I have a gajillion subdomains
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jgmac1106
switched back to reclaims name servers and now just waiting until everything switches back on
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[Will_Monroe]
[jgmac1106] So you are using Cloudflare as a means of supporting Brid.gy (and other services like Webmention.io that rely on similar technologies) at Reclaim, correct?
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jgmac1106
I was gonna try and it looked like it worked…but the hassle of configuring all those subdomains…
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jgmac1106
I have another $20 cloudfar account I use for reviewtalentfeedback.com which is half on reclaim and half on AWS but all those work
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jgmac1106
As expected cloudflare’s propogation was faster when I changed the nameservers the first time…..bad idea to be moving around nameseveres willy nilly at start of work day…..
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sknebel
Free CloudFlare should do subdomains too
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GWG
I can do something for the no name title on posts though
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GWG
I did it in the backend
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[Will_Monroe]
@GWG I would be interested in that!
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GWG
You may notice if there is no title, the admin shows an excerpt
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[arush]
Re: adding titles to posts that don't normally display them: Also helps when synticating, depending on theme. Indieweb Publisher works fine if you don't add them, but some of the other indieweb ones don't. Not sure if the way Indieweb Publisher handles them can be easily ported to other themes.
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[arush]
Oh, and hi all. 🙂 I just jumped into a convo without a greeting. That was probably rude on my part.
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[Will_Monroe]
[arush] hello! 🙂 And thank you for that advice. I use IW26.
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[arush]
Hello. Are you using the Post Kinds plugin with it, or just the theme by itself?
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GWG
I designed it to work mostly with Post Kinds
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[arush]
@gwg I thought so, and I usually don't do Indieweb without post kinds, but wasn't sure how the theme would work without it. There's also a code snippet floating around that I'm trying to find that fixes the title thing at least on the back end for posts. As soon as I find it I'll post a link here.
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GWG
Is it worth adding into the theme?
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[Will_Monroe]
[arush] Yes, I am using Post Kinds plugin.
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GWG
I am told it is my most comprehensive work
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[arush]
Yeah probably worth adding in. Here's the link I was looking for. Would take some modification since this depends on the status post format, not sure how easy this would be for post kinds. https://www.chrisreedtech.com/configuring-wordpress-micro-blog/
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GWG
I have a custom query built in
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GWG
So you can generate a feed with specific kinds or excluding specific ones
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GWG
I even hid an on this day and photo tag query
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[arush]
@gwg wow this is all in the theme? I need to go through and read the docs/code again apparently.
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[arush]
By theme I mean the IW26 theme.
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GWG
No, in Post Kinds
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GWG
It is in the Post Kinds readme
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GWG
I should add something inside
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beko[m]
Some recommends on syndicating to FB? That's a plugin zoo and I doubt that many even work.
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[kimberlyhirsh]
Syndicating to Fb is tricky. You can do it to a page with Jetpack. I tend to selectively manually syndicate to my timeline.
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beko[m]
I do the same currently but I really start to dislike this.
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beko[m]
Jetpack comes with a plan for this (that is not bad in itself) but it will add a ton of functionality that I don't really want or need at all 😕
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