#wordpress 2019-11-15

2019-11-15 UTC
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[chrisaldrich]
I've got the Activity Pub plugin up and running and it seems to be working... How does one get added to this list? https://the-federation.info/wordpress
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[xavierroy]
[chrisaldrich] It think it picks up in a day or two
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[xavierroy]
[chrisaldrich] Go to https://the-federation.info/register/<yournode.tld> and it shoudl pick up your node
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[chrisaldrich]
That may help. I've had it for a long time and fifured there must be some registration piece...
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[xavierroy]
yes. even my site was missing. they probably changed something
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[xavierroy]
but getting a 500 error when registering
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Ruxton
it looks like the register path is gone now in the source?
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Ruxton
ahh nope there it goes hooray
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[pfefferle]
[xavierroy] [chrisaldrich] can you install the nodeinfo plugin and try it again? https://wordpress.org/plugins/nodeinfo/
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Loqi
[Matthias Pfefferle] Description NodeInfo is an effort to create a standardized way of exposing metadata about a server running one of the distributed social networks. The two key goals are being able to get better insights into the user base of distributed social netwo...
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[pfefferle]
this adds some more data and other formats/versions
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GWG_
[pfefferle]: Hello
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[xavierroy]
[pfefferle] Installed and activated. And i show up there
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[xavierroy]
and i find that a porn site has the most number of posts there 🙂
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[xavierroy]
[pfefferle] is there a setting that picks up the country code ?
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GWG_
Hi, [xavierroy]
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beko
ah yeah… the real driver of new tech on the web.
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[pfefferle]
[xavierroy] I haven’t found one
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GWG_
[pfefferle]: While you are around, still trying to figure out what piece I can move over to webmentions next
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[pfefferle]
[xavierroy] the spec does not define one http://nodeinfo.diaspora.software/schema.html
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[pfefferle]
but perhaps there is a defacto meta field that I do not know…
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[pfefferle]
GWG what do you think?
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GWG_
About nodeinfo? I don't know much about it
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GWG_
About webmentions, I would want to do php-mf2, but the part that is going to be the hardest is changing the data structure.
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[xavierroy]
Hi [dshanske]
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GWG_
[xavierroy]: How goes your site?
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[pfefferle]
What datastructure?
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GWG_
[pfefferle]: Matching activity pub
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[xavierroy]
[dshanske] I'm planning to reboot come January and archive the current one to a sub-domain
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GWG_
Moving webmention from a comment type to the protocol meta field
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[xavierroy]
or alternatively have an yearly subdomain archive. Still undecided
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[xavierroy]
my only kvetch with the site is that I've been doing food posts since Jan, but I'm unable to categorise them. I think we spoke about the issue with Post Kinds dropping the title field when editing a post that has no url in the post response section.
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[xavierroy]
Posts from Teacup wind up under Uncategorised category and if I try changing the category, the post loses its response properties
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GWG_
[xavierroy]: I am finishing up version 4.0 of Simple Location...and I will look at the Post Kinds saving issue again before moving on to whatever is next
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GWG_
I have been working on it for longer than I expected.
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GWG_
Partly because I always work on it before I take trips
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[xavierroy]
I saw your demo post on the map. looks nice. Will it consider checkins or the trip post kind?
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[xavierroy]
For the Teacup issue, i think if [aaronpk] can include support for p-category, it would be nice 🙂
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GWG_
[xavierroy]: It works for any archive page
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GWG_
So /kind/checkin/map should work
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GWG_
No, but ?map=1 does... may have to add a rewrite rule otherwise
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GWG_
For a large archive, as I disable paging, it could take a while to load
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[xavierroy]
So if a post has a geocode, this would display, right?
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GWG_
A public one
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GWG_
I am filtering private location
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[xavierroy]
right now, I use a similar one for my trips, but generated and saved in the media folder
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[xavierroy]
right, private/protected locations need not be broadcast.
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[xavierroy]
well https://wpdev.gwg.us/?map=1 doesn't display a a map 😄
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GWG_
[xavierroy]: I would love to save the maps. It's a violation of TOS of every provider I have except Wikimedia which doesn't have an overlay feature
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[xavierroy]
that's asking too much 🤷
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GWG_
[xavierroy]: It could, but my archive page is /all
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GWG_
I think I disabled it on root as too likely to cause a problem
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GWG_
Even /2019 is iffy
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[xavierroy]
I was using https://staticmapmaker.com/ to generate maps
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[xavierroy]
[dshanske] have you seen the new TwentyTwenty WP theme?
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[xavierroy]
any plans for iw2020?
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GWG_
[xavierroy]: I would have to learn JS deeply and make my stuff Gutenberg compatible
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GWG_
Which I may have to do anyway
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GWG_
I am just still struggling with it conceptually
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GWG_
Hmm..that has two I don't
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GWG_
But I read the TOS of each. They forbid saving the map
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GWG_
Except the one that doesn't autogenerate markers
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[xavierroy]
Doesn't the 2020 theme work with classic editor?
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GWG_
I assume it would
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[xavierroy]
Let me check how it works with post kinds. Though it might be missing microformats
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GWG_
[xavierroy]: Maybe I will force myself to learn blocks while I am alone in a hotel room for two months
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GWG_
I was at the State of the Word
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GWG_
I got the message.
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GWG_
If you don't do blocks, you are anti progress
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GWG_
[pfefferle]: Did you give any thought to mf2 and blocks?
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[pfefferle]
Not really
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[pfefferle]
I had no real need yet
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GWG_
[pfefferle]: I am thinking about it, but I keep pushing it off
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GWG_
I have too many things I care about more
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GWG_
Like webmentions
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GWG_
Micropub
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GWG_
[pfefferle]: One final question...to get to the goal of a new webmention plugin with mf2.. what should I do next?
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GWG_
I am much better than when I started writing WordPress plugins but I still have challenges in figuring out big plans
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GWG_
I may try another speculative branch to play with custom comment type registration
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[pfefferle]
what about a branch to install/load the library
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[pfefferle]
Perhaps we should reactivate your merge request from some month ago
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[pfefferle]
I re-thought the autload stuff, and it seems a good idea
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[pfefferle]
I would also like to experiment with the namespace renaming
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[pfefferle]
to prevent collisions with other plugins
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Loqi
[dshanske] #197 Including Dependencies
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GWG_
[pfefferle]: I will refresh it then
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[chrisaldrich]
If you're using WordPress for IndieWeb, be sure to take this year's WordPress survey: https://wordpressdotorg.survey.fm/wordpress-2019-survey-english. Where possible, be sure to nudge them towards web standards for things like microformats, webmentions, micropub, etc. 🙂
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[chrisaldrich]
[pfefferle] Thanks for the reminder to update the node info plugin. That seems to have fixed the issue.
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[chrisaldrich]
I'm also happy to report that my listing on https://the-federation.info/wordpress has now put me 200 posts ahead of the spam site previously mentioned with 10504 (public) posts and 16689 comments!
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cambridgeport90[
Thank you for reminding me. I need to list myself up there. I forgot.
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[chrisaldrich]
Apparently adding myself has increased the number of posts coming from WordPress by 30%.
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[chrisaldrich]
And I've quadrupled the number of local comments! Look at that uptick.
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[chrisaldrich]
Webmentions++
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Loqi
Webmentions has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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GWG_
Fun survey
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GWG_
Thinking of all the changes coming to my website
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[pfefferle]
[chrisaldrich] 😊
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[pfefferle]
The nodeinfo plugin also supports the https://fediverse.network/manage backend
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[pfefferle]
Use the domain host and the admin email to log in
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[chrisaldrich]
thanks [pfefferle] I've tried the manage site, but am still waiting on an email. May have to contact them directly to see what may have gone wrong.
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[pfefferle]
Have you used the correct mail?
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GWG_
[pfefferle]: How do you feel about me reusing pieces of Parse This, as opposed to just using it as a dependency?
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[chrisaldrich]
[pfefferle] I tried two different ones actually just in case, though I suspect it's the site administrator listed at /wp-admin/profile.php under "Contact Info"
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