#wordpress 2019-11-17

2019-11-17 UTC
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GWG_
There are always a lot more people in this room than are chatting
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[asuh]
I lurk more than I talk
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[asuh]
How’s it going, GWG
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GWG_
[asuh]: Slowly. Sorry for the delay I was eating
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GWG_
I did a lot of house stuff today
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[asuh]
no problem!
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[asuh]
You’re a busy fella with all these plugins you’re juggling
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GWG_
I also have a job.
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GWG_
But I've set this goal of finishing my current project and using it to do a trip log of my trip to IWC B2
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[Michael_Beckwit
i passively hope GWG somehow wins the lottery so he doesn’t have to work a dayjob and can just focus on the tools all day 😛
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GWG_
[Michael_Beckwit: That would be interesting
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GWG_
I'm not sure I'm good enough of a programmer to do it professionally
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[asuh]
I’ve chatted with one or two PHP devs about lending a hand but it’s tough to persuade people to give time even if they agree with movement itself
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GWG_
[asuh]: I'm just afraid I'll have to dive more into JS.
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GWG_
I like PHP
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[asuh]
It’s inevitable that JS or React is in your future for these plugins
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[asuh]
That’s at least half of my day job now
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GWG_
[asuh]: O
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GWG_
I am afraid of that
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[Michael_Beckwit
i’ve heard not necessarily the best things about the react community
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[Michael_Beckwit
but i did put myself through a reach intro course on laracasts yesterday, so i at least have some context
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[asuh]
Yes, lots of hot drama in 2019, in unfortunate ways
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[asuh]
i haven’t really looked much but I should familiarize myself with Gutenberg at the very least
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[asuh]
Mostly played with it as an editor, rather than from dev perspective
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GWG_
[asuh]: I cannot conceptualize how mf2 works as a block
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GWG_
I should talk to someone
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GWG_
Either way, I will press on
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[asuh]
If I ever get far enough to visualize what it takes to get into more Gutenberg Dev, I’ll give feedback at the very least
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GWG_
Well, I like backend development.
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GWG_
So I may need a partner
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GWG_
I am looking for a location provider other than Compass to put in. I think I should have at least one alternative
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[asuh]
Depending on what Gutenberg is doing, there’s potentially a moderate amount of back-end type work within React already.
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[Michael_Beckwit
meanwhile i’m looking at the idea of a webmention block, because i will keep forgetting what classes/markup are needed, when i just wanna paste a link
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GWG_
A webmention block is what?
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[Michael_Beckwit
basically just the link/embed with the in-reply-to classes and whatnot
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[Michael_Beckwit
plus it’d be simple enough likely to make me feel accomplished in gutenberg creation
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GWG_
So a reply block?
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[Michael_Beckwit
definitely one way to think of it
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[Michael_Beckwit
i haven’t started anything, it’s just in germination stages at best
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[asuh]
WordPress 5.3 buttons feel like a UX regression, that’s too bad. I don’t mind the style of a transparent background with colored borders and text, but the new button style isn’t distinguished enough from form elements.
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[Michael_Beckwit
the UI style changes were done for accessibility purposes, in case you weren’t aware
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[Michael_Beckwit
if you were, then i lack further comment and i’m sure they’d appreciate feedback on the topic
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[asuh]
Thanks, I know I’m missing context here so I have some reading to do
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GWG_
So, what is next for both of you?
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[Michael_Beckwit
unsure at the moment
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GWG_
You heard my projects
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[asuh]
I haven’t planned personal projects with WordPress lately. Work has me buried in headless Craft CMS/API and Gatsby or React.
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[asuh]
Hoping to present Indieweb internally at the next dev meeting I speak at in a month
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[asuh]
I plan to demo the WP IW plugins as inspiration
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[asuh]
Here’s my update to version 5.3 impression about buttons.
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