#wordpress 2019-12-27

2019-12-27 UTC
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[Michael_Beckwit
GWG is there any sort of official IW WordPress plugin documentation location?
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: Getting Started With WordPress in the wiki.
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GWG
Are you looking for something specific?
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[Michael_Beckwit
not for personal use, i was thinking more helping write it
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[Michael_Beckwit
go rather in depth for understanding what settings do, etc
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[Michael_Beckwit
ease others in setup etc
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: That would work. I do admittedly think I could be better on the settings
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[Michael_Beckwit
worst case, i could type it up locally and push it wherever later
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[Michael_Beckwit
maybe a github repo 😄
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: I would ask, as you do, it, if you think the explanation could use improvement inside the plugins...
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chrisaldrich
[Michael_Beckwit there's a somewhat more update version of the getting started page here: https://indieweb.org/User:Boffosocko.com/WP_Draft
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chrisaldrich
Need to get around to finishing off the draft and moving it over.
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[Michael_Beckwit
i can definitely use it as co-op’d in-plugin content audit time
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chrisaldrich
Or perhaps it's better to start with tweaking the description and instructions within the plugins individually and then aggregate those pieces within the wiki....
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[Michael_Beckwit
i can definitely use that post of yours Chris as a starting point for my portion of contributions
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[Michael_Beckwit
why start from scratch when you have that already ready
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chrisaldrich
Also feel free to use anything you'd like from my site on particular pieces: https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/
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[Michael_Beckwit
it’s another month, thus another contributor day at my dayjob, so i’m getting myself pumped and apparently feel like docs writing/editing this month 🙂
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[Michael_Beckwit
tomorrow that is
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GWG
I have been working on a new post-parsing class for Webmentions to replace the one in Semantic Linkbacks.
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: The newer Indiewebcamp videos are on Archive.org
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[Michael_Beckwit
GWG not quite sure how we could approach https://indieweb.org/User:Boffosocko.com/WP_Draft#Post_Kinds_Plugin as technically the kinds are all terms in a taxonomy, as opposed to a post type like listed
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[Michael_Beckwit
my general experience is that taxonomies have been a bit more confusing than post types though
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[Michael_Beckwit
new question, for the Semantic Linkbacks plugin, it’s supposed to rely on the https://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/ plugin correct?
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Loqi
[Matthias Pfefferle] Description A Webmention is a notification that one URL links to another. Sending a Webmention is not limited to blog posts, and can be used for additional kinds of content and responses as well. For example, a response can be an RSVP to an event, a...
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[Michael_Beckwit
asking because this line from Linkbacks is always resulting in ‘discussion’ from what I can see `$page = class_exists( 'Webmention_Plugin' ) ? 'webmention' : 'discussion';`
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[Michael_Beckwit
Looks like it was broken with https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/commit/53dd363fb659c91ce6c57412b33244185892eab3 when Webmention_Plugin was removed as a class
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[Michael_Beckwit
opened an issue for tracking
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: Post Kinds are called such because post types is already a thing in WordPress
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[Michael_Beckwit
yeah
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: We'll solve the webmention class problem with the merge, I would imagine, but should do an intermediate fix
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[Michael_Beckwit
kinds, pun intended, are in an interesting spot
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[Michael_Beckwit
they’re a type of content, using a taxonomy to make the technical/code distinction, and they’re most similar to post format
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[Michael_Beckwit
which never took off like WP core thought
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GWG
They are a drop in replacement for post formats
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GWG
Speaking as the developer, I think of the post post type as representing the h-entry
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GWG
So, h-review, h-card, etc would represent different WordPress objects
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GWG
Of course, I also do events as a nested property inside h-entry
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[Michael_Beckwit
my main concern would be that people have better grasps of “post type” and it not creating a brand new area for creating posts in that post type, is going to potentially confuse
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GWG
I am still figuring out how to model microformats in blocks
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GWG
It is my lack of vision on that which caused me to punt the issue for now
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GWG
I have webmentions and other things to improve
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[Michael_Beckwit
oh don’t worry, soon you’ll have 2020 vision 😄
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GWG
I am rolling my eyes
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GWG
[Michael_Beckwit: I have a new mf2 processor to write to replace the one in Semantic Linkbacks.
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GWG
With a new one in Webmentions
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GWG
That will take a bit to get right, even if I've done this before
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[Michael_Beckwit
sounds like it
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GWG
I am using some of the same code
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GWG
I want to simplify maintenance
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[Michael_Beckwit
GWG, looking at the Syndication Links source, and see a LOT of various SVG files for silo services. Is this basically a list of services that the plugin will try to parse out and show links for?
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GWG
Yes, or could be used if someone filters
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GWG
Check out Simple Icons
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[Michael_Beckwit
cool
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[Michael_Beckwit
hmm, that “Install Plugins” link styled like a button, on the Getting Started page, is bothering me
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[Michael_Beckwit
the way presented, it has me thinking it’d install all of them for me automatically, once clicked, but it actually just goes to the extensions page
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[Michael_Beckwit
i kind of want to come up with a plugin of my own for the IndieWeb. One that could get listed in the installer…now i need an idea
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GWG
Such as?
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[Michael_Beckwit
dunno yet, that’s how much work i have to do…come up with any sort of idea first
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sebsel
[Michael_Beckwit]: Sounds like the wrong way around. Better start with an itch, increases the chances of the plugin actually being useful (:
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[jgmac1106]
What do you want? In terms I say try to make a plugin that searches for and removes old microformats and then people can use the current mf plugin
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[jgmac1106]
Could just adopt the microformats plugin. Currently abandoned... But I think most issues would be solved by my first comment
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GWG
The Microformats plugin could use a contributor
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[Michael_Beckwit
link to the appropriate .org/github repos would be appreciated so i know i’m looking at the right ones
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Loqi
[indieweb] wordpress-uf2: add "Microformats 2" classes to your WordPress theme
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Loqi
[indieweb] wordpress-mf2-feed: Microformats2 Feed for WordPress URLs
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[Michael_Beckwit
will check out both
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[Michael_Beckwit
thanks
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GWG
I may do an update on the feed one
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