#wordpress 2020-01-05

2020-01-05 UTC
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[jgmac1106] [Michael_Beckwith] great post! I might have started with the themes. Those work best. We currently are recommending no one use the mf2 plugin
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simons [jgmac1106]: that's interesting, I enabled mf2 yesterday :D why so?
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[jgmac1106] It is theme dependent, works sometimes, not always. It isn't mantained
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[jgmac1106] It is usually old microformats in the theme that cause the conflict.
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[jgmac1106] Do you have a link to a note and an article? I can check out the markup
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[jgmac1106] IndieWeb WordPress works best with one of the 4-5 native themes
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simons no notes, but an article here - uses vanilla twentytwenty: https://breakfastdinnertea.co.uk/2020/01/my-2019-year-in-running/
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[jgmac1106] Oooh cool. We can see if the old mf got removed from core
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[jgmac1106] !mf https://breakfastdinnertea.co.uk/2020/01/my-2019-year-in-running/
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Kaja___ https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbreakfastdinnertea.co.uk%2F2020%2F01%2Fmy-2019-year-in-running%2F
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Loqi [Simon Scarfe] My 2019 Year In Running
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jgmac1106 actually looks good! would need to check it with the post-kinds plugin
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simons yup - currently only have mf2 and webmention enabled on there, post-kinds will come either today or later this week.
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simons I'm gradually enabling them just so I know when I've broken something.
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jgmac1106 well it does still have older microformats but that did not trip up the parser
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jgmac1106 line 498 <div class="hcard-display h-card vcard p-author"> see the vcard that means they did not remove the older microformats,
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jgmac1106 simons let me know when you do, would love to know if we can recommend 2020 out of box with the mf2 plugin and post kinds
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jgmac1106 simone++ thanks for the help
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jgmac1106 simons++
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simons np - the vcard on 498 comes from the base wp-indieweb install. I'll give you a ping when I get to post-kinds.
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GWG Interested to hear how it works out
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jgmac1106 yeah there has been an open issue about removing microformats from core, I was interested to see if they did for 2020, guess not yet. In a way WP removing from core may improve the mf2 plugigin, but good to know 2020 works out of box with notes and articles
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GWG They don't care enough either way
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GWG Sigh.. https://wordpress.org/support/topic/no-gutenberg/
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GWG How do you review something poorly for not doing something it says it doesn't do
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jgmac1106 You can email the reviewer and ask if he feels not working with Gutenber is worthy of the one star rating? not sure?
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[Michael_Beckwit I wonder if one could remove the conflicting old microformat classes via filter. At least ones added by core and not hardcoded by individual themers
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jgmac1106 [Michael_Beckwit] be a great addition to the mf2 plugin if those filters can be added, you only have to search for a few key terms, sems to be more of a problem when used in conjunction with post kinds
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jgmac1106 and so theme specific on whether it works, but it would be just a few terms to search for and delete.
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jgmac1106 \sounds like becoming the mf2 mantainer is getting more and more interesting to you….
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jgmac1106 be forwarned many have come before and tried, no one has cracked how to get proper mf2 into themes reilably with a plugin
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jgmac1106 was good to see it working with 2020 atleast with standard post formates of article and notes
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[Michael_Beckwit eh not seeing "hcard" in the WP core files, so must be a theme-dependent thing from past themes
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[Michael_Beckwit i'm not textually committing to anything at the moment, just spitballing thoughts
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jgmac1106 search for vcard, hcard, others in microformats channel might be able to provide you other older legacy properties
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jgmac1106 never committing you to everything, I am just excited to meet the person who finally figures out how to solve the problem
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jgmac1106 anything*
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[Michael_Beckwit word
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jgmac1106 like I said was an open issue to remove mf from Core, gwg can probably point to the exact url, wonder if it was done
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[Michael_Beckwit maybe https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/30783
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[Michael_Beckwit probably https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/32348
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jgmac1106 hentry search for those
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jgmac1106 see that GWG still all over the issue: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/32326#comment:5
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jgmac1106 gwg++
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[Michael_Beckwit untested, but has potential
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[Michael_Beckwit add_filter( 'post_class', function( $classes, $class, $post->ID ) {
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[Michael_Beckwit if ( in_array( 'hentry', $classes ) ) {
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[Michael_Beckwit $key = array_search( 'hentry', $classes );
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[Michael_Beckwit unset( $classes[ $key ] );
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[Michael_Beckwit }
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[Michael_Beckwit return $classes;
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[Michael_Beckwit } );
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[Michael_Beckwit if we want to potentially sabatage at least, if some theme is using it for styling
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[Michael_Beckwit i wanna say there's somewhere to get all the themes hosted on .org, and one could grep through them all to see how many use the classes
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[Michael_Beckwit gotta return home, but i'll be back
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